Allegiance Online Stuttering

Wasp · Post by **Wasp** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:24 pm

...I have to ask...

Did you zoom in all the way when you made your observation? I've still have not connected to a lan line however, connecting to different wifi routers + using different configurations has not yielded any improvement.

I'd like to add that this appears to only occur when a position change takes place (my ship or the miner). Moving the nose of my ship does not create stutter, only when thrust is applied.

Wasp · Post by **Wasp** » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:23 am

KGJV wrote:QUOTE (KGJV @ Sep 29 2016, 01:48 PM) what artwork do you use ?

default, uninstalled and reinstalled fresh to make sure.

KGJV wrote:QUOTE (KGJV @ Sep 29 2016, 01:48 PM) do you have mods or highres stuff ?

nope

KGJV wrote:QUOTE (KGJV @ Sep 29 2016, 01:48 PM) what are the game settings (resolution, poster, environ, debris, etc) ?

tried every resolution available and toggled on and off the posters and lighting and debris, etc... had no effect on the stuttering

KGJV wrote:QUOTE (KGJV @ Sep 29 2016, 01:48 PM) the CPU & GPU of the PC ?

i7 4770k (not overclocked) HPET on and off, turbo on and off, multi core, single core, hyper threading on & off, sound on and off...every combination of in game sound settings...Nvidia 760's SLI on & off, single card and dual exhibit same results...changed desktop resolution, tried various NIC drivers, various wifi channels & speeds and modes...

KGJV wrote:QUOTE (KGJV @ Sep 29 2016, 01:48 PM) the OS version ?

Win7 64bit, Win 8 (on laptop)

KGJV wrote:QUOTE (KGJV @ Sep 29 2016, 01:48 PM) the network type (wifi, wired) and speed ?

wifi was tested on my end, Firestorm tested and confirmed a wired connection...

KGJV wrote:QUOTE (KGJV @ Sep 29 2016, 01:48 PM) but more importantly: who else is experimenting this or these issues ?

Zix - as posted above
Firestorm - wired connection - confirmed stutter
Spidey - wifi connection - confirmed stutter
and myself ofc - with video demonstration of stuttering

Post by **MagisterXF94** » Sat Oct 01, 2016 7:56 pm

I can cornfirm too

Wired connection

Cpu:I7 4790K
GPU: AMD 290X
Latest drivers
Win 10

1920X1080
All graphics settings enabled.
High resolution textures set to 2048 resolution

Wasp · Post by **Wasp** » Sat Oct 01, 2016 10:06 pm

KGJV wrote:QUOTE (KGJV @ Sep 29 2016, 01:48 PM) so no, "Replicating the "bug" isn't easy". far from it.

Far from it? Everybody else sees it. Don't understand how you can't.

KGJV · Post by **KGJV** » Sun Oct 02, 2016 1:14 pm

Wasp wrote:QUOTE (Wasp @ Oct 2 2016, 12:06 AM) Far from it? Everybody else sees it. Don't understand how you can't.

Well I really don't see it and "Everybody" is a shortcut, so far that's only 5 people.

Wasp wrote:QUOTE (Wasp @ Oct 2 2016, 12:06 AM) and myself ofc - with video demonstration of stuttering

can you remake the same video but with alt-f active ?

can you remake the same video on a version (dx7?) that doesn't stutter and with alt-f active ?

Wasp · Post by **Wasp** » Sun Oct 02, 2016 4:02 pm

KGJV wrote:QUOTE (KGJV @ Oct 2 2016, 09:14 AM) Well I really don't see it and "Everybody" is a shortcut, so far that's only 5 people.

ok, 5% of the active community who have tested this, have stuttering. You're the only one yet who tested and doesn't have this problem. Can you produce a video of this NOT stuttering?

KGJV wrote:QUOTE (KGJV @ Oct 2 2016, 09:14 AM) can you remake the same video but with alt-f active ?

Done, I have more videos of even larger stuttering visuals however; I'm looking for free hosts to put those videos up on. Blacksun Stuttering

KGJV wrote:QUOTE (KGJV @ Oct 2 2016, 09:14 AM) can you remake the same video on a version (dx7?) that doesn't stutter and with alt-f active ?

Need R4 server.

KGJV · Post by **KGJV** » Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:37 pm

Wasp wrote:QUOTE (Wasp @ Oct 2 2016, 06:02 PM) Need R4 server.

so the training mission (combat practice) doesn't have stuttering ? is it only related to networking ?

Wasp · Post by **Wasp** » Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:02 pm

KGJV wrote:QUOTE (KGJV @ Oct 3 2016, 03:37 PM) so the training mission (combat practice) doesn't have stuttering ? is it only related to networking ?

I can not say that this is only related to networking however, that was my suspicion when I asked AEM to reveal the server update rate (no reply).

Miners in the training mission do not stutter, or at least, not in the same fashion. You can detect that miners in the training mission make micro movements when you, or they, are in motion but that appears normal to me. Online games on the other hand are totally obvious and annoying and even make targets difficult to track especially when zoomed in (such as with turretting).

Terran · Post by **Terran** » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:58 pm

i have never noticed this stuttering before but that's probably because i never zoom in when targeting. i personally wouldn't consider this the worst of the alleg bugs, but that's just me.

Wasp · Post by **Wasp** » Mon Oct 03, 2016 10:35 pm

Terran wrote:QUOTE (Terran @ Oct 3 2016, 05:58 PM) i have never noticed this stuttering before but that's probably because i never zoom in when targeting. i personally wouldn't consider this the worst of the alleg bugs, but that's just me.

I understand your point of view however, this may be linked to something bigger. There are two other issues that are indeed game breaking (lag and controller behavior) but those are almost impossible to demonstrate across forums. If they are related, then there's a chance of killing 2+ birds with one stone, if unrelated, at least the stuttering would be fixed.

I assure you, that stuttering is not supposed to be there.