Bombers

Tactical advice, How-to, Post-mortem, etc.
SouthPaw
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Post by SouthPaw »

CDT II material is not made public. This is intentional.

As a really general rule I suggest not using any ship that requires money UNTIL you know how. This means that if not through CDT, then by seeing them used effectively.

Killing Stealth Bombers is easy once you spot them. They have no turrets, very low hull, usually no nans and will be desperately trying to get in range of your base rather than shooting back.

With the number of new players around it can't be very long before CDT I starts. I look forwad to seeing you on the course.
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Post by Deathrender »

Spinoza wrote:QUOTE (Spinoza @ Feb 27 2009, 04:46 AM) How to SB when noob:
Caveat - this guide is about a simplified, generalised, noobified version of stealth bombing.
Keep your uber-vet tips and tricks for after the newbie does it a few times.

You need X stealth bomber for:
TP = 1-2OP = 2-3Tech base = 3-5Advanced tech base = 5+

Loadout:
Do NOT launch or fly with shield !Do NOT launch or fly with missiles loaded !Put shield in cargo. You'll use it later.Plenty of ABs in cargo (3+). You might get very very lucky.Load Sniper if you have it.

How to get there:
Ask what the comm wants bombed.
Before going, sit in base, look at F3 and plan your route.
When you enter a sector, go high or low ASAP, until you're 3k+ from the grid. Uncloak when you're far enough.
On route, travel on the edge of sectors, far above or below grid with cloak off and cloak before entering alephs alephs.

I can see their base ! Now what ?
Go waaaay off grid ASAP ! Ask a vet SB for a waypoint if you're not sure what is a good spot.
Setup with other SBS at a good distance from the base and each other.
5K away from a small base, 6-7k from a tech base. 7-8k if they have pulse probes
Recharge your energy before going.
Ask a vet if you're set up good.
Go on signal. Enter your distance from base every 0.5k so you all go in sync.
Cloak 4-5K from target.
Load AB at 2k.
Fire AB at 1400.
Uncloak and load shield when you're eyed. You'll be screwed by then. Just keep running. The chances of an eyed SB living when it's eyed are very slim. Just keep low sig and try and get away. Arming shields will give you a better chance of eye for 1/10 of a second of time to live. But generally chances of you getting away are 1 in 20.

When it's over, unload shield, cloak and run like crazy.

Good luck.
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Post by BlackViper »

Always in the Shadows...
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Post by chromium »

BV beat me to it.

Some other (minor) things:
1. when you are stealth bombing, it helps to approach the base from the green door side. it will give you an extra second or two before defenders reach and subsequently pod you
2. notice how the other SB pilots are set up; for example, if two of them are set up above the plane, set up BELOW the plane
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Post by Captainmorg »

FreeBeer wrote:QUOTE (FreeBeer @ Feb 26 2009, 11:29 PM) But basically, stealth bombing is a team effort. Several bombers set up at a safe (and usually equal) distance. They co-ordinate so as to hit the base at the same time to increase the chances of success.
Much like sperm going for an egg.
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Post by SouthPaw »

Captainmorg wrote:QUOTE (Captainmorg @ Feb 27 2009, 03:03 PM) Much like sperm going for an egg.
Apart from the fact that the commander of the stealth bombers doesn't have to buy the commander of the base dinner first.
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Post by Macattack278 »

thanks for all the replies, all of them quite helpful. It's a little off topic, but i was wondering about Net 2.0 and playing allegiance on something other than a windows machine. I'm going to Ireland on tour in a week and if Cadet I starts then, then i'm in a bit of a bind since my laptop is a mac. My friend, who's a CS major told me that Net 2.0 is a programming platform, similar to Java, and that the only thing keeping someone from using Net 2.0 programs on a mac or linux machine is the fact that Net 2.0 is windows only. However, my friend also said that there was a multi-platform program called Mono that was a Net 2.0 analogue, which would let me run net 2.0 programs (like allegiance) on my laptop.

So is this true or is he full of @#(!?
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Post by zecro »

Allegiance is a Windows Executable, meaning that it will run in Windows (and applications such as Wine with some success) only.

ASGS, the authentication client, is the one that uses .Net 2.0. Furthermore, ASGS requires access to hardware that abstraction layers like Wine are unable to provide. In short, even if you can get Allegiance.exe running, you might only be able to play LAN games because ASGS won't authenticate you. This is a long-running issue with Allegiance/ASGS that has a long and drama-filled story, but it's being worked on.

You can use Boot Camp to boot your mac into Windows XP which should have little or no issues running Allegiance/ASGS. This is probably your best choice of action. Also, Cadet I is a guided self-paced reading course and has no play-time requirements.
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Post by Macattack278 »

zecro wrote:QUOTE (zecro @ Feb 27 2009, 12:45 PM) You can use Boot Camp to boot your mac into Windows XP which should have little or no issues running Allegiance/ASGS. This is probably your best choice of action. Also, Cadet I is a guided self-paced reading course and has no play-time requirements.
yeah, this is what i use on my desktop, but i prefer to use boot camp on a separate hard drive which is not an option for my laptop. oh well. I guess it will be more of an issue for cadet II anyway.
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Post by Grimmwolf_GB »

I posted a strategy for bombing a while back. I don't know where it is now, either Cadet II or gone. :D Anyway, you are new to the game, nan the bombers for now and only take a bomber when nobody else can be arsed to do it. Bombing takes no skill, but a @#(!load of knowledge, gut feeling, preparation and luck. In a bomber you have the fate of your team in your hands.
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