Vanaka wrote:QUOTE (Vanaka @ Sep 26 2007, 04:28 AM) GT has 8k paydays, That is simply unexceptable. Most other factions have 3.5k paydays, thats means they get more than TWICE as much as regular factions, with cheaper tech costs. and, count that fact that they go exp 90% of the time, with HE upgrades, they can probably get 9k paydays, without much trouble.
and their miner paydays are'nt the only thing they have double of:
Faction Perks
Strong hull(1.0) and shield(1.1)
Strong station shield and hull (1.1)
Cheap tech cost(.8)
Scouts able to mount Gatt and Nan at the same time
Palisade provided for a cheap ungalvable base, also doubles as a Garrison
Extra tech provided by the Research(pulse laser, HTT armor plating, Gauss gun etc.)
Miners offload at tech bases
Available Harbringer of Doom
Faction weakness
Lack of refineries may anger some people
Slow He speed(.8)
Missile track nerfed(.9)
Slower ripcord(.9)
Perks>"weakness"
And DON'T get me started on stangs...
Usually when u say "paydaying something" it means getting stuff when you have 0 miners. Thus mining is not paydaying.
HoD is hard to get but some people tend to go for it /ninja.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":ninja:" border="0" alt="ninja.gif" />
And stangs are the ship that is the doom for 90% of the comms.
I like GT. Their econ and their ability to push cons gives your team the same advantage as tf scouts used to be for TF.
Anyways, we can't go overboard with nerfing GT. Due to how its mining is set up, it naturally favors smaller maps such as hihiger. Other factions have some good perks themselves, though gt cheese seems to be easier to use (pretty much the same argument that was raised with dis3 aoe - cheese as defined by tech set against the skill level).
Small nerf to the econ would make sense, but taking to much away from GT will make it an utterly bland faction. Though I do like GTs versatality and given that miners unload at everyting right now and the cheesines of the pali (large con and spare gar /doh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":doh:" border="0" alt="doh.gif" /> ) it makes comming GT a very enjoyable experience.
Anecdotal examples of how GT pwned or got pwned doesn't really mean much.
In conclusion:
pali from large con to small con + no gar
tech cost 0.8 -> 0.9
and lets see what happens
We all remember the history of changes done to IC and how even a small nerf to the econ, or perk to the econ, can make an enormous difference
ICs probably about right now I believe
anyways, its all in the hands of Noir /mrgreen.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="mrgreen.gif" />
and even if GT is unbalanced a bit, damn belters are damn hard to kill
