Phoenix Drones

Rand0m_Numb3r · Post by **Rand0m_Numb3r** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:10 pm

it was pretty high up

my bad

Ximvader · Post by **Ximvader** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:20 pm

Malicious Wraith wrote:QUOTE (Malicious Wraith @ May 16 2007, 09:30 AM) Why dont we see more people using phoenix mobile star/tech bases?

Its a floating carrier that you can dock/undock at, is immune to standard fire (need to bomb it baby), it can rip, and you can undock and non-capital ship from it. It also costs only twice as much as a standard carrier (Albeit you cant rip to a mobile starbase, you just dock/undock at it).

I mean, if you are playing against expansion v expansion just send it right next to the enemies expansion and undock nix assault shield bombers = instant win!

The main problem I saw in the TEK with the mobile starbases is the Low number of Hitpoints compared to a full base.

It cost less .. and it is a launching platform so it can be defended well .. the lower hitpoints are kind of off set by the flex. but I just assumed they were not used because they where found to be too vulnerable due to the hitpoint issue.

I do not know if people have tried it enough to say or not really it was an assumption of my own.. they are so slow also.. I can imagine it blocks an aleph for some time as it comes thru.. LOL! But vulnerable to a Res at that point also!

gothmog2 · Post by **gothmog2** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:00 pm

Yeah.... they cost a @#(!load more than a carrier (don't forget research cost as well as the already-have-advanced-tech-and-already-won-the-game-at-that-point-unless-it's-a-four-hour-stalemate factor)... and they are quite slow... not to mention loitering around $#@!ing alephs and 'joefoo(3) (assault expansion237)goto gookumschuck' 59 seconds into their rip... They are kinda neat though if the enemy team has 1/87th your rank...

and drones.... $#@! drones.

:/not-quite-decayed-necro:

Sycrus · Post by **Sycrus** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:11 am

Clay_Pigeon wrote:QUOTE (Clay_Pigeon @ May 16 2007, 06:21 AM) Isn't miner AI somewhat determined by core? I've always noticed that EoR miners will go back and scrape He rocks once the last "full" rock has been drained. That's always been handy.

Miner AI core chart:

DN=Retarded

Warpcore= Apoch's retards

GoD= Still retarded

EoR=wtf is it doing?

RPS=Even more retarded

A+=Question time is over

Karandor · Post by **Karandor** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:00 pm

If the miners get decent AI in R4 I may actually try to comm, I hate having to micro the damn things.

Malicious Wraith · Post by **Malicious Wraith** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:24 am

Karandor wrote:QUOTE (Karandor @ Jul 18 2007, 07:00 PM) If the miners get decent AI in R4 I may actually try to comm, I hate having to micro the damn things.

You dont micro in allegiance. You yell until your units yell back at you.

Andon · Post by **Andon** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:43 am

Miners don't yell back.

I think that AI firing could use some tweaking in general. In my WIP core, I have a 'Defense Positioner' drone that is a special rip for the Defense Devastator. I was playing a game against myself to check the tech trees, and I sent the .Defpos over to the enemy base, and it totally raped one of the enemy miners. While it was funny to watch, it was a bit ridiculous, especially since I had lowered the shoot skill from normal.

blackeagle0001 · Post by **blackeagle0001** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:55 am

Miners that yell back...

I SAID MINE B****

"Affirmative"

NOT IN THE ENEMY HOME

"Affirmative"

DONT GO TOWARDS THE ENEMY BATTLESHIP YOU DAMN MINER

"Affirmative"

WTF ARE YOU RIPPING TO THAT TELE THAT IS BEING BOMBED FOR?!??!!?

"Affirmative"

Gappy · Post by **Gappy** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:29 am

Assault bases are large rips, with enough energy to rip in 3 bombers, and recharge to rip in an additional bomber every 12 seconds. Their armor type is minor base hull, the same armor type as the hull on outposts/teles/refineries, meaning the only thing that can kill them are bombers and galvs. It takes 10% more AB missiles to kill an assault starbase as an adv techbase, and is affected by hull GAs. Lastly, they're also carriers, so you can rearm and regain hull/shields.

The only reason they aren't abused currently is that people haven't figured out how ridiculously overpowered they are.

Terralthra · Post by **Terralthra** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:03 pm

Sycrus wrote:QUOTE (Sycrus @ Jul 18 2007, 03:11 PM) Miner AI core chart:

DN=Retarded

Warpcore= Apoch's retards

GoD= Still retarded

EoR=wtf is it doing?

RPS=Even more retarded

A+=Question time is over

All cores use the same AI.