Microsoft Office 365: Banned in German schools over privacy fears

peet · Post by **peet** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:17 am

https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft ... acy-fears/

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Grimmwolf_GB · Post by **Grimmwolf_GB** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:29 pm

Surprised it took that long. Our company also uses the microsoft cloud and I see potential problems in the future, but the central IT loves outsourcing everything, even when it makes no sense.

Terran · Post by **Terran** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:05 pm

i love the new Euro digital privacy laws. hoping they spread to other advanced economies.

peet · Post by **peet** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:02 pm

Some claim it the "Brussels effect". The EU is too large to ignore. Making a separate privacy setting for each region is too expensive for international companies, so they adapt the EU privacy rules worldwide (where there are fewer privacy rules).

Terran · Post by **Terran** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:45 pm

peet wrote:QUOTE (peet @ Jul 13 2019, 06:02 PM) Some claim it the "Brussels effect". The EU is too large to ignore. Making a separate privacy setting for each region is too expensive for international companies, so they adapt the EU privacy rules worldwide (where there are fewer privacy rules).

that's true, i have already seen a few emails from digital services in canada about changing privacy policies due to the new euro rules. a great example of why the EU is something worth preserving.

Post by **pkk** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:35 pm

Source:
https://datenschutz.hessen.de/pressemit ... schutz-und

Broodwich · Post by **Broodwich** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:07 pm

I think this has more to do with trump than anything else. MS has been doing this since forever, and its not even with 365. Their Office suite will randomly send chunks of your data back to MS if there are bugs encountered for diagnostics.

It points out that there was a german cloud MS built, but then discontinued. All the same data was harvested from german users, but it stayed in germany so i guess that was different. I doubt any end user appreciates their data being pulled by a giant corp no matter where it is housed. Regardless, which corp has con

It does bring up a good point of the EU not having anything to compete with US companies. There isn't an alternative to google, aws, or ms as far as i know, unless you wanna do russian companies

Post by **pkk** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:51 pm

So much for European/German MS cloud:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act

peet · Post by **peet** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:06 am

Get the software from the country you wish to be spied on

I agree, the US has a dominant market position in cloud related services. Noticed it with Google and Huawei Android, it virtually turns their phones into discount bin devices.

The problem is, Google is really good. I can not remember the last time I had trouble with Gmail. Also works nicely with an adblocker. Outlook.com does odd things with the recyle bin, where I can still opt for restoring files. And it complains I should get a paid version to get rid of ads.

Also I do not believe there are many companies using LibreOffice.