P-Rank

Archer14 · Post by **Archer14** » Sun May 05, 2013 11:44 pm

How Phoenix ranks the commanders of the game...

Tier S: No one (only Aarm and Spidey have made it here)

Tier A: Vogue, Dome, Phoenix1

Tier B: Ryujin, Drizzo, Botzman, Blake, Phantom 032, Weedman, Mastametz

Tier C: Sarajevo, Thallium, UncleBuck, The Alaskan, Cashto, Vortrog

Tier D: Tyrh, Yiggz, Chakotae, Boe

Explanations:

Tier S: Can win almost regardless of their team and techpath, always one step ahead of their opponents.

Tier A: Very solid grasp of the game, can almost win regardless of team OR techpath (but not both), firm grasp of how the settings affect the game and how to approach various maps.

Tier B: Good understanding of settings and map, good enough to generally draw a stack, dubious grasp of certain game concepts.

Tier C: Little to no understanding of maps, settings, or the strategy of the game, tends to use builds that are copied off the wiki. Tends to rely on conventional wisdom without truly understanding it. Generally have some very obvious ways of looking at the game which can be exploited.

Tier D: No understanding of the strategy of the game, may understand one or two maps by rote and one or two factions and their preferred settings. People here are either so predictable that they can simply be dismantled or they are unable to grasp certain very key concepts such as expanding or attacking miners.

Hellsyng · Post by **Hellsyng** » Mon May 06, 2013 12:12 am

hahahahahahahhahahahah Drizzo and Mastametz are below P1. Best attempt to troll in forever.

SgtMajor · Post by **SgtMajor** » Mon May 06, 2013 12:13 am

Hellsyng wrote:QUOTE (Hellsyng @ May 5 2013, 06:12 PM) hahahahahahahhahahahah Drizzo and Mastametz are below P1. Best attempt to troll in forever.

My thoughts exactly, epic b8 m8!

Post by **zombywoof** » Mon May 06, 2013 12:35 am

It wasn't posted in public because it wasn't ready yet. Tier lists are fluid things that change based on observations. For Masta and Drizzo most of what I had to go on is what other people have told me about them and my vauge memories of Masta and Drizzo from several years ago. Expect an updated list in Two Weeks tm... but some basic rearrangments would look like this:

Tier S:

Tier A: Vogue, Dome, Drizzo

Tier B: Mastametz, Botzman, Phoenix1, Blake, Ryujin, Weedman, Thallium

Tier C: Phantom032, Sarajevo, The Alaskan, Cashto, Vortrog

Tier D: Tyrh, Yiggz, Chakotae, Boe, Unclebuck

I'm not entirely sure about Thallium's placement since I have yet to fly for him, he could very much be further up the list.
Drizzo is another I'm unsure about, it's likely he sandbags against me, and most of my experience against him comes in Squadgames (same with Vogue) but MECPK vs SysX isn't even at all, so there's some question as to whether their stomping us has to do with Drizzo's command skill or the fact that Drizzo + Sheff + Vogue could curbstomp 90% of MECPK even if we flew at them at the same time.
Vogue is clearly #1 and commanding against him feels like commanding against Spideycw at times... though he lacks that little bit of "I don't care who's on my team or what the factions are, it's going to be a stomp anyways" that Spidey managed to pull off in his heyday.
Blake is another one who could move a lot since I don't have that much experience with or against him.

Broodwich · Post by **Broodwich** » Mon May 06, 2013 12:52 am

kaps is way better

Vortrog · Post by **Vortrog** » Mon May 06, 2013 12:54 am

Woohoo..I made Tier C and pushed Harold down to D...err...wait...

cashto · Post by **cashto** » Mon May 06, 2013 1:12 am

Another player that could move a lot is P1. He already dropped from tier A to tier B, but could potentially fall all the way to my level once P1 finds out more how he plays.

spideycw · Post by **spideycw** » Mon May 06, 2013 1:26 am

I'm ranked too low

edit: instead of you all ridiculing P1 for his thoughts on this matter why don't you guys be constructive and help him accurately rank everyone?

FIZ · Post by **FIZ** » Mon May 06, 2013 1:40 am

This is all wrong. This is more like a list of commanders that can bring a stack to a PUG.

I guess I got trolled.

TurkeyXIII · Post by **TurkeyXIII** » Mon May 06, 2013 2:30 am

OK, constructive criticism then.

The tier descriptions only reference game mechanics and strategy. I find commanding is only maybe 10% mechanics and 20% strategy, the rest is a vaguely defined term called leadership. Most commanders are not in the same tier as Vogue, Dome, Drizzo, or P32, but saying that they don't understand key concepts and copy strategy off the wiki is frankly insulting.