Page 1 of 2
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:48 pm
by kramari
After some trouble with my game. I decided to download the installer and install Allegiance again. The current installer is terribly out of date. I enter the game and with my 8Mbit internet connection I have to wait for a really long time to get everything on auto-update. Also my first download of the installer was going at speed of 16 KB/s but because I knew that there are different hosts I canceled and clicked on the link again and the download went at full speed as it should. 850 KB/s.
So new people who get the really slow download will just cancel and think that is as fast as it goes and go play something else and if they wait they will get the slow auto update as the installer is really out of date. People are really impatient and I wonder how many people we lose because of that.
We should keep the installer updated all the time with every artwork release.
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:58 pm
by pkk
kramari wrote:QUOTE (kramari @ Jan 23 2011, 10:48 PM) After some trouble with my game. I decided to download the installer and install Allegiance again. The current installer is terribly out of date. I enter the game and with my 8Mbit internet connection I have to wait for a really long time to get everything on auto-update. Also my first download of the installer was going at speed of 16 KB/s but because I knew that there are different hosts I canceled and clicked on the link again and the download went at full speed as it should. 850 KB/s.
So new people who get the really slow download will just cancel and think that is as fast as it goes and go play something else and if they wait they will get the slow auto update as the installer is really out of date. People are really impatient and I wonder how many people we lose because of that.
This depends on from which mirror you're downloading.
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:04 pm
by kramari
Autoupdate or installer?
I know installer depends and I can just cancel it. Because I know there is another mirror which is faster I can get a faster download. New people do not know this.
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:25 pm
by pkk
kramari wrote:QUOTE (kramari @ Jan 23 2011, 11:04 PM) Autoupdate or installer?
I know installer depends and I can just cancel it. Because I know there is another mirror which is faster I can get a faster download. New people do not know this.
I was talking about the installer...
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:56 pm
by madpeople
madpeople agrees with all of kramari's points. madpeople was surprised when he went to download the latest installer two days ago that he was asked if he wanted to overwrite his allegsetup258.exe from 06/2010.
pkk wrote:QUOTE (pkk @ Jan 23 2011, 09:58 PM) This depends on from which mirror you're downloading.
That's what he said
kramari wrote:QUOTE (kramari @ Jan 23 2011, 09:48 PM) Also my first download of the installer was going at speed of 16 KB/s but because I knew that there are different hosts I canceled and clicked on the link again and the download went at full speed as it should. 850 KB/s.
but it wasn't his point
QUOTE So
new people who get the really slow download
will just
cancel and
think that is as fast as it goes[/quote]
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:10 am
by fuzzylunkin1
Plus the auto update download might be quite the surprise, as well.
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:17 am
by Dorjan
Most new online games has a token downloader which then asks them what they want (hi-def packs, microsoft redis etc) then downloads it from a server.
Maybe that'll be a better approach?
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:20 am
by madpeople
Dorjan wrote:QUOTE (Dorjan @ Jan 24 2011, 01:17 AM) Maybe that'll be a better approach?
When I was writing my version of modulous in java I intended it to be able to install all the files in the default installation as a "Base Configuration" mod.
Putting all the files (optionally .wav in addition to .ogg) in the alleg install folder and writing the reg keys is all that's required to install allegiance correct?
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:27 am
by Dorjan
madpeople wrote:QUOTE (madpeople @ Jan 24 2011, 09:20 AM) When I was writing my version of modulous in java I intended it to be able to install all the files in the default installation as a "Base Configuration" mod.
Putting all the files (optionally .wav in addition to .ogg) in the alleg install folder and writing the reg keys is all that's required to install allegiance correct?
yep.
So it shouldn't be an issue. With this method you can keep the "small download" for people who don't want hi-res, and you don't have to have a big initial download! Also you can / maybe able to take the files from auto update
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:24 pm
by kramari
So we leave stuff as it is?
What can I do to make the installer better? I will learn if something needs to be learned.