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Vlymoxyd
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Post by Vlymoxyd »

I don't think I've suggested this since spidey is in command.

DN messed up with a lot of names. My guess is that the main reason noir messed with them was that they were easier to manage in ICE(oddly enough, most of the changes he did ended up putting similar tech together in ICE since it is in alphabetical order). Imo, the old names were much better and I don't think the new ones are worth it just to make it a little bit easier for the core devs. There's also a bunch of names that were shortened. I personally prefered the full names.

What was changed:

Light Outpost -> Outpost(LT)
Heavy Outpost -> Outpost(Hvy)
Teleport Receiver -> Teleport
Lt Teleport Receiver -> Teleport(Lt)
Hv Teleport receiver -> Teleport(Hvy)
Carbon Mine -> Specmine(Ca)
Uranium Mine -> Specmine(Ur)
Silicon Mine -> Specmine(Si)
Helium Mine -> Specmine(He)
Adv Supremacy -> Supremacy(Adv)
Adv Expansion -> Expansion(Adv)
Adv Tactical Lab -> Tactical(Adv)
Starbase -> Garrison(Str)
Palisade Station -> [P]alisade
Research Station ->[R]esearch
Drydock -> Shipyard(Dry)

Missile Frigate -> Frigate
Light Cruiser -> Lt Cruiser
Pod Frigate -> Frigate
Pod bomber -> Stealth Bomber
Stealth Plasma Bmbr -> Stealth Bomber
Pod Fighter -> Stealth Fighter
Adv Pod Fighter -> Adv Stealth Fighter
Ballista -> Bomber
Plasma Bomber ->Bomber
Heavy Ballista -> Hvy Bomber
Heavy Bomber -> Hvy Bomber
Corvette -> PT Bomber
Light Interceptor -> Lt Interceptor
Heavy Interceptor -> Hvy Interceptor
Advanced Fighter -> Adv Fighter
Enhanced Fighter -> Enh Fighter
Advanced Constructor -> Lg Adv Constructor
Enhanced Constructor -> Lg Enh Constructor
Constructor -> Lg Std Constructor
Advanced Miner -> Adv Miner
Enhanced Miner -> Enh Miner

EW Stinger -> EW A-B Stinger
Nanite Repr Sys -> ER Nanite
EW Utl Cannon -> EW Utl Can
EW Skyripper -> EW Skyrip
EW Galvonic Blst -> EW Galv Blstr
Booster Fuel -> Fuel
Heavy Cloak -> Hvy Cloak
Light Cloak -> Lt Cloak
Light Booster -> Lt Booster
Large Shield -> Lg Shield
Medium Shield -> Med Shield
Small Shield -> Sm Shield
Light Booster -> Lt Booster
PW Gattlg Gun -> PW Gat Gun
PW SkyCap Turret -> PW SkyCap
Signature Cloak -> Sig Cloak

Countermeasures -> Counter
Hvy Countermeasure -> Hvy Counter

Caltrop -> Caltrop Mine
Proximity Mine -> Prox Mine

LRM Aleph Resonator -> LRM Aleph Res
LRM Hunter Missile -> LRM Hunter
LRM Killer Missile-> LRM Killer
MRM Seeker Missile -> MRM Seeker
SRM EMP Missile -> SRM EMP
Compat Pod -> Combat Drone
Hv Pod -> Hvy Combat
Hv Station Pod -> Hvy Station
Station Pod -> Station Drone
Drone AC -> Tower Drone AC

Drone Label
Mine Layer -> .Caltrop
Carrier -> .Carrier
Tower Layer ->TowerAC
Constructor -> Constructor (Lrg) | Constructor (Sml)
Miner -> .Miner
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Post by Paradigm2 »

Drones with the periods make it easier to give them chat commands, since players can't make hiders that start with "."
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Post by pkk »

Vly, you forgot TF... :P

Plasma Bomber -> Bomber
Stealth Plasma Bmbr -> Stealth Bomber
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Post by Vlymoxyd »

I think I forgot to mention that I don't want to change everything back(The . before the name of the drones is one of those good change I though of). I just listed everything. Imo, most of the changes should be removed, but there's still a few things that made sense.


Edit:
Thx Pkk, I looked at an A+ version for GT tech, but though that TF was DN only and didn't suffer from any changes.
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Post by TurkeyXIII »

I was under the impression that Supremacy (Adv) and Garrison (Str) etc. were also for ease of chat commands.
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Post by pkk »

Vlymoxyd wrote:QUOTE (Vlymoxyd @ Aug 4 2009, 06:33 PM) Thx Pkk, I looked at an A+ version for GT tech, but though that TF was DN only and didn't suffer from any changes.
GT:
Corvette -> PT Bomber
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Post by madpeople »

Weren't there:
Advanced Constructor -> Sm Adv Constructor
Enhanced Constructor -> Sm Enh Constructor
Constructor -> Sm Std Constructor
?
I disagree with changing the following back:
Vlymoxyd wrote:QUOTE (Vlymoxyd @ Aug 4 2009, 05:20 PM) Pod Frigate -> Frigate //It's the same type of ship, it may do things differently, but it's the same thing really.
Pod bomber -> Stealth Bomber
Stealth Plasma Bmbr -> Stealth Bomber
Pod Fighter -> Stealth Fighter
Adv Pod Fighter -> Adv Stealth Fighter
Plasma Bomber ->Bomber
Heavy Ballista -> Hvy Bomber
Advanced Constructor -> Lg Adv Constructor //differentiate types of con - op and tech base.
Enhanced Constructor -> Lg Enh Constructor
Constructor -> Lg Std Constructor
EW Stinger -> EW A-B Stinger //more informative names
Nanite Repr Sys -> ER Nanite
EW Galvonic Blst -> EW Galv Blstr
Booster Fuel -> Fuel // there is another type offuel besides booster fuel?...
PW Gattlg Gun -> PW Gat Gun //gattlg doesn't sound as good as gat
PW SkyCap Turret -> PW SkyCap //doesn't have to be a turret - confusion if something called "turret" is mounted as a front gun.

Countermeasures -> Counter //shorter names
Hvy Countermeasure -> Hvy Counter

LRM Aleph Resonator -> LRM Aleph Res
LRM Hunter Missile -> LRM Hunter // we know it's a missile
LRM Killer Missile-> LRM Killer
MRM Seeker Missile -> MRM Seeker
SRM EMP Missile -> SRM EMP
Drone AC -> Tower Drone AC //undecided about this, if we ever get working AI ships with guns, we may want to call them drones, as opposed to towers which don't move

Drone Label
Mine Layer -> .Caltrop // as previously mentioned, the . means that they are actual AI units, not not the guy named Miner386
Carrier -> .Carrier
Tower Layer ->TowerAC
Constructor -> Constructor (Lrg) | Constructor (Sml)
Miner -> .Miner
TBH I think the shorter names are better - "I'm here to lead, not to read"
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Post by Xeretov »

TurkeyXIII wrote:QUOTE (TurkeyXIII @ Aug 4 2009, 12:41 PM) I was under the impression that Supremacy (Adv) and Garrison (Str) etc. were also for ease of chat commands.
madpeople wrote:QUOTE (madpeople @ Aug 4 2009, 01:08 PM) TBH I think the shorter names are better - "I'm here to lead, not to read"
These.
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Post by spideycw »

I dunno Vly - I can't think of any reason we should really go through and change the names back besides the fact you like them the old way. They are a bit longer and people will now have to memorize more things when using ctrl-g
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Post by Vlymoxyd »

I still try to send my miners to ADV techbase rather than techbase(ADV) so I understand that people who are used to the new ways might not want to go back. I didn't think that people have gotten used to the new ways(Cause I didn't).

I still don't understand the Palisade and Research changes.

Also:
Ballista to Bomber
Pod bomber to Stealth bomber and so on...
The only reasons these might be better are:
-Easier for core devs to find the required tech
-Easier to learn for complete newbies

It's obviously not a huge issue but for some reasons, the new names annoys me. I just hoped I wasn't the only one who was bothered by these.
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