Belts Tac

guitarism · Post by **guitarism** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:47 am

Again, from the old boards

Belts tac is too strong. Please nerf it so I don't have to see it anymore. Thanks

CronoDroid · Post by **CronoDroid** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:48 am

guitarism wrote:QUOTE (guitarism @ Jul 6 2006, 02:47 PM) Again, from the old boards

Belts tac is too strong. Please nerf it so I don't have to see it anymore. Thanks

You must tell him HOW, padawan. HOW is it too strong?

jgbaxter · Post by **jgbaxter** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 6:06 am

Hmm.

Ok I'll save you from the flames Crono. Belt ships fly like pigs, a belt stealth fighter that gets eyed can turn to opponent, fire of an lrm or 2, boost while firing snipe and boost through your ship. Heck, it probably can ignore the lrm and snipe. /cool.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

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CronoDroid · Post by **CronoDroid** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 6:37 am

Baxter, I do have a rudimentary knowledge of how to play this game. Personally, I know why Belts Tac is very strong, but I asked for the reasons so the OTHERS could know.

Incidentally, Belts SBs are tough little buggers. Plus SFs with LtBoost is totally awesome.

guitarism · Post by **guitarism** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 7:10 am

Actaully, I think thats all fine. What gets me right now is the econ vs tech prices. Its too easy to buy everything in the whole works, even with the time lag. I see its quite possibly to get Belts Sb's up before IC hvy ints.

jgbaxter · Post by **jgbaxter** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:08 am

Well, yes belts could do that without too much problem. Tac is one of the best for belts as they don't have to dogfight much, and fly like pigs, so that's a good thing.

I dunno, belts are doing pretty good stat wise, so belts might need a whack on the head, a tiny one maybe or bigger...

[img]Faction Wins Losses Draws Win %
Belters 102 76 5 55%
Technoflux 71 52 4 55%
Rixian 49 40 1 54%
Gigacorp 94 94 5 48%
Dreghklar 67 76 0 46%
Ga'Taraan 46 54 1 45%
Iron Coalition 63 91 1 40%
Bios 16 27 1 36%
Phoenix 8 18 4 26% [/img]

CronoDroid · Post by **CronoDroid** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:09 am

Belts SB: 8000 + 6750 + 3750 + 18000 + 5000 = 41500 (I think, that's Techbase, Bommas, SFs, Station Up, SB)

IC Hvy Ints: 10000 + 30000 = 40000

Belts has a much faster econ than IC.

So yes, it is easier to get SBs up according to these numbers (and in-game experience can vouch for that as well).

Typhoone · Post by **Typhoone** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:27 pm

Here are some options (just brainstorming now).Change Belter SB to lt. boost not boost.Nerf accel or speed a bit more .(to force importance of boosters?)Increase price for sig cloak. (Does this seem like a belters technology anyway?)Give them Lt. SFs instead of SFs to research first (then add SFs, or remove adv. SF?).Bump sig up a hair globally.Remove rip ability from tac ships? (Hmm, not even sure how this could play out... kamikaze miner killers).Remove Utl & Sniper weapons from belter tac ships (force them to mount gatt, nan, dis, or mini).Again, not sure on the feasibility or fairness of all that, just brainstorming ideas into this thread. Best;

Ty.

Freeza · Post by **Freeza** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:34 pm

Suggested by others before and still valid:

Increase costs of utl2, snipe1, hunter2, & sig cloak2; for all tac, not just belters.

That's the main problem, it seems commanders can instantly buy up all that tactical enhanced tech right as the tech base is up. They should have to pick 1-2 of them and not buy all 4 at once.

Post by **Pook** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:07 pm

BELTAH TAC IS TEH PWN AND I LIKE IT THAT WAY

move along now...

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