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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:26 pm
by Adept
Terran wrote:QUOTE (Terran @ Apr 10 2010, 01:44 AM) in that case why not make the stats count for 10v10 games instead of 5v5 as the minimum.
This would be good. Less motivation to set up 5 vs. 5 whore on the newbie com sidegames too.
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 5:40 pm
by aptest
MrChaos,
On the data presented, with sample size being as it is, variance is close to 0, and therefore the margin is small enough to be irrelevant . As for the mean, the mean is the proportion of winning on this type of experiment. However, since you wanted this:
Faction Win Loss Probability of winning variance STD upper bound to win prob at 95% certainty lower bound to win prob at 95% certainty
Bios 64.00 44.00 0.59 0.00 0.00 0.60 0.58
Rixian 57.00 42.00 0.58 0.00 0.00 0.59 0.57
Gigacorp 68.00 58.00 0.54 0.00 0.00 0.55 0.53
Ga'Taraan 37.00 33.00 0.53 0.00 0.01 0.54 0.51
Belters 57.00 56.00 0.50 0.00 0.00 0.51 0.50
Dreghklar 64.00 68.00 0.48 0.00 0.00 0.49 0.48
Technoflux 59.00 66.00 0.47 0.00 0.00 0.48 0.46
Iron Coal 99.00 138.00 0.42 0.00 0.00 0.42 0.41
Putting IC aside, I don't think that there is one faction of which you can say with any certainty, "I should not be going this because I am propping myself for a lose". And even with IC, I would not put serious money on IC losing any game, at least with these stats.
As you can see it's not really saying a lot. What I would really like to see is information about if one faction "trumps" another distinctively. That is to say I would like to see the following table out there:
Win proportion table bios rix giga gt belt dreg tf ic
Bios 0.5
Rixian 0.5
Gigacorp .5
Ga'Taraan .5
Belters .5
Dreghklar .5
Technoflux
Iron Coalition .5
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:58 pm
by Broodwich
i brought this up in the admin requests forum, apparently that is supposed to be a part of allegskill that baker hasnt implemented yet.
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:15 pm
by MrChaos
edit:
I was ridiculously rude to aptest, I apologize for it. I disagree that you can use the information to obtain anything useful at all. Ive run out of gas on this topic and unfortunately you are late to the game. I can clearly remember Pook, getting damn nasty with me when I offered to help way back in the day on this very subject. He was wrong to assume I had no clue, and I may have passed on the favor aptest. Old battle scars, not you.
Brood
No the finger needs to be pointed back at TE. Rarely do I say this, so take it how you wish. Its very hard to get anything implemented given the dysfunctional nature of the family, epeens etc, Im not placing blame Im stating the work was either done or almost done and two years later... I stepped out a long time ago. Management was apathic, I read the writing on the wall, and went to enraging Onion.
