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jaybird39 wrote:QUOTE (jaybird39 @ Oct 16 2006, 03:44 AM) now what about those of us that are just sucky at Dogfighting, and need to have an advantage to keep up with you guys /mrgreen.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="mrgreen.gif" />
Thank you for your very accurate definition of the term 'cheating'... /mrgreen.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="mrgreen.gif" />


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Now if I had mods to elp me, wouldnt I be able to last more than a second in anything but a pod?
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cort, are you saying that EoR is cheating? /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />

sorry, couldnt resist...
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_SRM_PsycHosis wrote:QUOTE (_SRM_PsycHosis @ Oct 16 2006, 08:35 AM) cort, are you saying that EoR is cheating? /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />

sorry, couldnt resist...
/mrgreen.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="mrgreen.gif" /> /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />


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_SRM_PsycHosis wrote:QUOTE (_SRM_PsycHosis @ Oct 16 2006, 08:35 AM) cort, are you saying that EoR is cheating? /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />
See, that would only hold if we couldn't pod your sorry ass on DN /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

'sides, Cort couldn't on EoR either, most probably.
*ducks*
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Anguirel wrote:QUOTE (Anguirel @ Oct 16 2006, 01:37 AM) In general, I think:

Models / Skins - These should be for the Core Dev to set. In theory, ship skins could be considered part of core-balance. We should lock down these files, or at least make it possible for the dev to lock them down for their own core (and the base Allegiance original files should be locked down so you ca make a "Plain Vanilla Original Allegiance" core and be sure everyone is using the same stock skins).

Basically, mods which modify how you access information that is available to every player == good. Mods which display information that is not available to every player, or which change things which are otherwise set by the core devs == bad. Unfortunately, Gatt3 particles are set by the Core Devs -- if they want a powerful seizure gun, they should be able to make that. We were, at one point, considering making a smoke-screen or flash-bang flare fun. If you could modify the associated skin for that, it negates the point of the item. So that sort of file needs to be locked down, in my opinion, and if you think the graphic is too large, complain to the Core Dev or see about creating a modified version of the core so everyone will have the altered graphic if they play on that server.
i'm gonig to dis-agre on some points, and agree on others

if a core dev makes a smoke screen gun that needs a big particle, they make it, and ask for the file to be locked down.

noone deliberatly designed gat 3 to blind you, they jsut wanted to use a bigger particle to give the idea that it will hurt if you get hit by it.
gat 1 smallest, gat 2 bigger, gat 3 biggest.
being blinded wasnt a feature of the gun, it was a side effect, probabbly un-intentional, as gat 3 is supposed to be better than gat 2, and if you cant see what your shooting with 3, but can with 2...

ship skins, again its up to core devs what they ask to be locked down, we have had custom skins which have been fine.
but if a core dev wanted to impliment something liek a research for "black paint" which mad all your ships have dark (neary black) textures, then they would ask for the texture fiels to be locked.

leave things open to midding unless modding them undermines their purpose - which is decided by the core dev.
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Post by Anguirel »

madpeople wrote:QUOTE (madpeople @ Oct 16 2006, 04:18 AM) leave things open to midding unless modding them undermines their purpose - which is decided by the core dev.
My stance is, in the case of skins, it should probably be locked down (at least the original models and skins) unless explicitly opened up by the dev, rather than the reverse. But I did say "or at least that option should be there" -- at present it isn't directly possible except by asking the admin to explicitly lock down files.

As for the Gatt3 -- yeah, it's stupid, but complain to the core dev to fix it, even make the files to make it easy for them, but it shouldn't be something you get to do on your own.
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Post by madpeople »

the general concensus of the community is, you don't like something, you change it.

asking a core dev to change everyones particles just because you dont like them is a little selfish, and people just tell you to DIY.

besides, i dont really see a problem with some of the ship skin mods, some of them look really awesome, even if i dont use them, the red versions of the rix ships looked awsome, evil, but still awesome.
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