EWS Probes 2 & 3

Adam4 · Post by **Adam4** » Sat Aug 01, 2009 2:19 pm

In which case, it is misleading:

Devel: GA: Ship Sensors 1 (157):

madpeople · Post by **madpeople** » Sat Aug 01, 2009 3:32 pm

I thought it was common knowledge that the sensor GA effected everything.

Xeretov · Post by **Xeretov** » Sat Aug 01, 2009 3:40 pm

Halving the cost of EWS probes is the best plan for making the tech more useful, but...

Does Sup really need another perk right now? My feeling is no.

Its something to consider later if we feel Sup does need more perking though.

Adept · Post by **Adept** » Sat Aug 01, 2009 4:18 pm

Xeretov wrote:QUOTE (Xeretov @ Aug 1 2009, 06:40 PM) Halving the cost of EWS probes is the best plan for making the tech more useful, but...

Does Sup really need another perk right now? My feeling is no.

Its something to consider later if we feel Sup does need more perking though.

We could balance it with removing probe 2 from the treasures. That way the overall cost doesn't really chage (unless somebody actually buys both probe 2 and 3 these days), and getting better probes becomes more of a strategic choise.

Xeretov · Post by **Xeretov** » Sat Aug 01, 2009 4:24 pm

Adept wrote:QUOTE (Adept @ Aug 1 2009, 12:18 PM) We could balance it with removing probe 2 from the treasures. That way the overall cost doesn't really chage (unless somebody actually buys both probe 2 and 3 these days), and getting better probes becomes more of a strategic choise.

I would still consider that a perk. Treasure is just that - freebies. You can't rely on getting a certain piece of tech.

If we removed mini2 from treasures, but brought the price of mini2 and mini3 down to $2500 would you say its the same as it is now? Hell no, expansion would be even cheaper than it is now. Sure you'd probably see mini3 used more often, but thats a direct result of the perk and makes the average team that much stronger.

Besides, its an even bigger perk when treasures are low or off.

Clay_Pigeon · Post by **Clay_Pigeon** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 5:59 am

If we're thinking out-of-the-box (which I'm generally not ok with, including now), make EWS 2 and 3 Garr tech, since it really goes with scouts more than anything else.

Correct · Post by **Correct** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 6:06 am

Clay_Pigeon wrote:QUOTE (Clay_Pigeon @ Aug 1 2009, 10:59 PM) If we're thinking out-of-the-box (which I'm generally not ok with, including now), make EWS 2 and 3 Garr tech, since it really goes with scouts more than anything else.

Worse. Then the enemy can steal it easily and it will get bought even less.

Post by **zombywoof** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 6:14 am

pkk wrote:QUOTE (pkk @ Jul 31 2009, 05:01 AM) Beacon vs RP

Beacon has half scanrange of RP.
Beacon has half signature of RP.
Beacon costs only 0.4 times of RP.
Both rescue pods.
Both have 20 mins lifetime.

Overall beacon beats RP.

R;R^2:R^3 PKK. Yes, the scanrange of a RP is twice as much, but that results in eight times as much area being "eyed." RPs and Beacons are about equally cheese.

(This is also because you can drop a RP 1500 from a base and always see everything except ints, sfs, and some scouts that launch. Which means you only have to travel 300m eyed before dropping. One RP pretty much probes a sector, as long as it's within 2000m of the base. One beacon doesn't even come close.)

Adept · Post by **Adept** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 3:00 pm

phoenix1 wrote:QUOTE (phoenix1 @ Aug 2 2009, 09:14 AM) One RP pretty much probes a sector, as long as it's within 2000m of the base. One beacon doesn't even come close.)

They are so cheap, just use two. They'll never be found afterall.

Post by **zombywoof** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:48 am

Adept wrote:QUOTE (Adept @ Aug 2 2009, 08:00 AM) They are so cheap, just use two. They'll never be found afterall.

Two won't work adept. It's not the same thing because they have to be dropped 1k from the base where people can see you place it.