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Froggy · Post by **Froggy** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:57 pm

Ozricosis wrote:QUOTE (Ozricosis @ Oct 15 2006, 12:17 PM) Just so you know, those dates are the dates we joined the forums. Some of us have been around since 2000.

or 1999

Elephanthead · Post by **Elephanthead** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:05 pm

Wow, Joseph Stalin would be proud. I haven’t been compelled to install this game on my new computer and it doesn’t look like I will anytime soon.

Ozricosis · Post by **Ozricosis** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:48 pm

QUOTE Bottom line -- we've had more bans based on forum behavior and general mischief making than for direct cheating. Guns22 and FS_Black are simply the best known permabans, not the only ones which have occured.[/quote]

I would think that a harder line would be taken versus people who use exploits, cheat (giving away information to the enemy team over 200 times) than has been shown. /unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":unsure:" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

Rand0m_Numb3r · Post by **Rand0m_Numb3r** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:06 pm

No one person should be allowed to ban beond 50days without senate approval FIRST

with the exeption of Attacks upon the servers or peoples computers (hacking)

Then be reviewd by the senate to confirm ban.

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The way things are sliding in a year or so i may stop playing alleg due to all the humorus good players being banned.

In some cases it appears you are treating the symtoms not the illness, like a bad doctor.

Grats you are making a terriable mistake banning 5+ year vets.

I loved the way the alleg comunity was back when i started just over 3 years ago, it has alwas made me very touchy upon banning people for being a general ass.
Althoug some cases are justifed like hacking doing things that make it immposible for people to play.

I started gaming on Tribes RPG mod, the ass hats there are 100 fold wose than masta in a bad mood with no @alleg around.
Belive me when i say. This place is padded enough.
I dont want to fly around with a helmet and paddiings on in a ball pit.

The the way Pook was running it was almost perfict:
A stern ban if there was a noteable violation, COULD be REDUCED if was accidental and first time.

Only thing he coulda done better was have a forum POSTING ban at the same time as in game ban. (now we have this nice work pook

)

</rant>

jgbaxter · Post by **jgbaxter** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:20 pm

Anguirel wrote:QUOTE (Anguirel @ Oct 17 2006, 06:28 PM) Whether that was a serious question or not, it's actually probably relevant and should be looked into.

Of course it was a serious question. /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />

Grimmwolf_GB · Post by **Grimmwolf_GB** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:54 pm

I am still against the forum bans...

Post by **BlackViper** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:09 pm

Definition of forum ban: complete lockout

Definition of admin reduced privileges: They can see, send PM's, can not post. That is what all of them to my knowledge are under.

Grimmwolf_GB · Post by **Grimmwolf_GB** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:35 pm

They definately can send PMs.

Narg · Post by **Narg** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:27 pm

Wasn't Harold3 perma banned? And also another kid who crashed TS and threatned to sue?

_SRM_Petit_Mort · Post by **_SRM_Petit_Mort** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:39 am

Elephanthead wrote:QUOTE (Elephanthead @ Oct 17 2006, 04:05 PM) Wow, Joseph Stalin would be proud. I haven’t been compelled to install this game on my new computer and it doesn’t look like I will anytime soon.

lol The rules start getting enforced, heads begin to roll and suddenly it's Stalin-esque?

What it looks like to me is that people who constantly, willfully and contemptuously break rules, skirt the definition (in order to irk someone in possession of a banstick to show their "superiority" or "importance" or whatever) are finally getting a comeuppance of sorts.

What's transpired, in a manner of speaking, is that they have just been thrown in the slammer prior to going to trial and sentancing.

Rand0m_Numb3r wrote:QUOTE (Rand0m_Numb3r @ Oct 17 2006, 05:06 PM) Grats you are making a terriable mistake banning 5+ year vets.

Rand0m, don't take this personally but I've heard this arguement before and each time I hear it it upsets me.

Tenure is one of the most worthless ideals in life in my opinion.

In the real world having Tenure makes you difficult if not impossible to fire... for no other reason than the longevity of service.

That doesn't speak at all to the quality of that service or how well you do your job, and all too OFTEN it keeps people in a position to harm the customer base... ever had a really bad experience with a CSR at a phone company? chances are that no matter who you talk with that they can't even get reprimanded because they have "tenure" and will be there to irk someone else who calls in... what a GREAT system...

I've been playing this game since it was in CLOSED Beta (it might have even been before then too, my memory gets hazy going back that far) and many people here have been playing even longer than that.

I am NOT however the best whore in the game... nor am I the best commander around, and just because I've been around longer doesn't give me the right to make demands, treat newer people like dirt, and doesn't make me exempt from the rules.

Some people have been warned frequently since week 1 of their being here (and as has been pointed out earlier, in some cases it's more than 5 years!) and yet their behaviour has not changed and their treatment of others has not changed.

After years of this, finally people are getting too tired to put up with any more of it.

Again, I ask why it should be harder to ban people that have a long tenure with the game?

That's like saying that we (the community) shouldn't be able to ban people who are over 6'3 tall with brown hair and brown eyes... what does any of that have to do with their treatment of others?

Don't take that personally Rand0m, you were just the person to say it most recently, I was merely stating my opinion regarding that arguement that some people are bringing up... I still think you're a cool cat to chat with /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />