The New Effix Faction, EoR 6a

Viscur · Post by **Viscur** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:23 pm

I do so enjoy friendly and constructive banter.

Mastametz · Post by **Mastametz** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:23 pm

I like how this thread has changed from "TAC SCOUTS CAN'T KILL THINGS BY RAMMING, LIAR"

into

"TAC SCOUTS CAN KILL THINGS BY RAMMING, SO WHAT? EOR ISN'T BROKEN"

p.s. At this moment I'm sitting in NOAT on EoR listening to Deng+friends talk about how much damage Tac scouts do by ramming.

Terralthra wrote:QUOTE (Terralthra @ Aug 8 2006, 12:19 PM) (killing yourself each time)!

and that's not necessarily true either.

Bard · Post by **Bard** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:25 pm

Mastametz wrote:QUOTE (Mastametz @ Aug 8 2006, 01:07 PM) I launched in a tac scout. I pointed my ship at an enemy. I pressed boost. Another tac scout would die instantly, as well as some other ships. Some ships I would ram multiple times before they died. Some ships I rammed and kept doing damage, but I died before they did. Other times I died instantly, but still did damage. The only time I didn't do damage was against cap ships.

p.s. Deng, I tried ramming a miner, I took out all its shields and died. I couldn't kill a miner with a tac scout. Any other non-capship, I could.

P.P.S. Many people (especially me) are tired of you making stuff up and preaching it as fact (like missles being IMPOSSIBLE TO SHOOT DOWN on DN, like Minepacks only being able to do damage for one second (which I didn't see myself but heard was written in cdt stuff)

P.P.P.S. good job editing your post to save yourself some humiliation.

You rammed another tac scout and it died? Surprise. Tac scouts are kinda fragile. They're not meant to be speedy dodging nan tanks , dog fighters, or pulse probes. They're big fragile machines with an ok scan range and a mountable booster that goes really really fast.

But let me make sure I understand you...

You're telling me that you went really really fast and rammed a few ships and you died before the other ships did even though you did some damage as you died?

No offense, but I kinda fail to see how you podding yourself while ramming something at high speeds makes an entire core broken.

Find me an exploit.
Find me something that's truly broken instead of just "different than what you're used to".
Answer my questions in more detail.
Throw me a freaking bone here.

Terralthra · Post by **Terralthra** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:27 pm

Mastametz wrote:QUOTE (Mastametz @ Aug 9 2006, 05:23 AM) I like how this thread has changed from "TAC SCOUTS CAN'T KILL THINGS BY RAMMING, LIAR"

into

"TAC SCOUTS CAN KILL THINGS BY RAMMING, SO WHAT? EOR ISN'T BROKEN"

p.s. At this moment I'm sitting in NOAT on EoR listen to Deng+friends talk how much damage Tac scouts do by ramming.

Really? I like how it's changed from "Effix is a cool new faction on EoR" to "I hate EoR, yet somehow, I played EoR for 2+ hours last night."

I mean, honestly. You've made no secret about disliking EoR for the past several months. WTF were you doing on EoR, and WTF are you doing now, except starting @#(! just because you can?

Bard · Post by **Bard** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:29 pm

Viscur wrote:QUOTE (Viscur @ Aug 8 2006, 01:23 PM) I do so enjoy friendly and constructive banter.

Meh.

I figure it's constructive if we solve an actual problem along the way, and this may or may not be an actual problem.

The frothing masses are just that, but occasionally you can seperate the wheat from the chaff and get something useful out of the whole mess.

Dengaroth · Post by **Dengaroth** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:31 pm

Mastametz wrote:QUOTE (Mastametz @ Aug 8 2006, 09:23 PM) p.s. At this moment I'm sitting in NOAT on EoR listening to Deng+friends talk about how much damage Tac scouts do by ramming.

Yes. It's called emergency testing (reason for the edits too, in case you haven't noticed)

Anyways, thanks for pointing it out.

Terralthra · Post by **Terralthra** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:38 pm

Mastametz wrote:QUOTE (Mastametz @ Aug 9 2006, 05:23 AM) I like how this thread has changed from "TAC SCOUTS CAN'T KILL THINGS BY RAMMING, LIAR"

into

"TAC SCOUTS CAN KILL THINGS BY RAMMING, SO WHAT? EOR ISN'T BROKEN"

p.s. At this moment I'm sitting in NOAT on EoR listening to Deng+friends talk about how much damage Tac scouts do by ramming.
and that's not necessarily true either.

So, rather than post an inflammatory insulting post (or several, as the case may be) in the Gameplay forum, why didn't you post a simple courteous post in the EoR forum to Hawk's attention saying you believe tac scout ramming damage is off?

Mastametz · Post by **Mastametz** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:43 pm

Bard wrote:QUOTE (Bard @ Aug 8 2006, 12:25 PM) Find me something that's truly broken instead of just "different than what you're used to".

QUOTE 08/08/06 12:35:28: Apochboi@ACE (all): mmm cap drive on gunships make them uber nimble
08/08/06 12:35:45: Drizzo@SF (all): stick one on a battlecruiser
08/08/06 12:35:49: Drizzo@SF (all): you can actually dogfight /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />[/quote]and as for tac scout damage

QUOTE 8/08/06 12:36:17: ^Dengaroth@RT (all): gimme a target, yellow
08/08/06 12:36:21: Drizzo@SF (all): what kind
08/08/06 12:36:27: Drizzo@SF (all): okay my ballista
08/08/06 12:36:27: diminex (Test): Cap ship waiting for turret gunners
08/08/06 12:36:30: ^Dengaroth@RT (all): Roger.
08/08/06 12:36:34: jetix (Test): I'll be on your turret in a few seconds.
08/08/06 12:36:39: ^Dengaroth@RT (all): stop
*I ram an int with my tac scout*
08/08/06 12:36:40: Hawkwood@RT (all): erm , he did damage?!
08/08/06 12:36:42: ^Dengaroth@RT (all): Affirmative![/quote]

In conclusion -

Terralthra wrote:QUOTE (Terralthra @ Aug 8 2006, 12:19 PM)

Go ahead and have your EoR. Change it and make it better and play on it and do whatever you want. Just don't tell me DN is so broken, and EoR is balanced. I wouldn't say any core is balanced, that's why they are always changed.

Dengaroth · Post by **Dengaroth** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:49 pm

As I said already...

Anyways, after testing more, it's definitely a FAZ thing. They also deal damage in 5qb, where they definitely didn't before (or rather, not so much - the increase seems to be about tenfold). Dev team guys, sure you didn't take out "an unneeded assertion" somewhere?

[quote=""Mastametz""]Go ahead and have your EoR. Change it and make it better and play on it and do whatever you want. Just don't tell me DN is so broken, and EoR is balanced.[/quote]

How about you return the favor? I remember at least three separate incidents where you, of your own accord, came to a small EoR game (while a DN one was running) for the single purpose of sitting on noat and blabbering along the lines of "eor is soo broken" and so on and so forth. Which would seem to constitute trolling, at the very least... probably harassment.

Terralthra · Post by **Terralthra** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:50 pm

Mastametz wrote:QUOTE (Mastametz @ Aug 9 2006, 05:43 AM) and as for tac scout damage
In conclusion -
Go ahead and have your EoR. Change it and make it better and play on it and do whatever you want. Just don't tell me DN is so broken, and EoR is balanced. I wouldn't say any core is balanced, that's why they are always changed.

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