Hvy Scouts being tied to Starbase

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Well you are entitled to your opinion but personally i dont find anything wrong with the current setup
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CronoDroid wrote:QUOTE (CronoDroid @ Dec 3 2008, 12:52 AM) Yes but you need Starbase to research Adv Scouts no?
You don't get it... ;)

You update Garr to Starbase.You research AdvScouts.Enemy bombs your last Starbase (or captured Garr).You still can research HvyScouts, without having a Starbase (or captured Garr). All you need is a techbase (no pali or research).
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I have no complaint about requiring Starbase to do the research. If at one time it was required, does anyone know why the requirement was removed?
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Post by juckto »

Old way:

You needed a Starbase to research Adv Scouts
You needed a Starbase and Adv Scouts to research Hvy Scouts

New way (DN 4.5 I think):

You need a Starbase to research Adv Scouts
You need any techbase and Adv Scouts to research Hvy Scouts

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This change was made to slow down Rix Hvy Scout rushes, by effectively making them 10k more expensive.
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Since we are looking into heavy scouts, could we please get rid of the QL missile racks. Those things are horrible cheese and make no frigging sense what so ever.
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Adept wrote:QUOTE (Adept @ Dec 3 2008, 11:13 PM) Since we are looking into heavy scouts, could we please get rid of the QL missile racks. Those things are horrible cheese and make no frigging sense what so ever.
They were made to replace the double-missile packs (you could fire two seeker 3's at the same time at the same target, for example). Noir tried but failed to find the source of the bug, so replaced the missile with a QL version instead.

I'd love to see the return of duel-missile, they give the hvy scout a nice but of extra punch imo.

Also, juckto wins at explaining how to get heavy scouts. My opinion on the matter is that Crono has denied the possibility of this being a valid vote by having stupid vote options. Take a statistics course man!

edit : Seriously though, this would sort of make sense but only if you brought starbase in line with other techs and only required a garrison to get adv scouts.
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Gandalf2 wrote:QUOTE (Gandalf2 @ Dec 3 2008, 04:01 PM) this would sort of make sense but only if you brought starbase in line with other techs and only required a garrison to get adv scouts.
Wait a minute guys...We need scouts with a little more scan and 25 more hull to win. Let's upgrade the Gar! It's totally worth it!

Adv scouts should be normal gar, should have been normal gar before i started playing.
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Dark_Sponge wrote:QUOTE (Dark_Sponge @ Dec 4 2008, 12:26 AM) Wait a minute guys...We need scouts with a little more scan and 25 more hull to win. Let's upgrade the Gar! It's totally worth it!

Adv scouts should be normal gar, should have been normal gar before i started playing.
Belt Adv Scout can mount a minigun :D Totally worth it!
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Gandalf2 wrote:QUOTE (Gandalf2 @ Dec 3 2008, 05:01 PM) Also, juckto wins at explaining how to get heavy scouts. My opinion on the matter is that Crono has denied the possibility of this being a valid vote by having stupid vote options. Take a statistics course man!
What? I have three 'yes' options and one 'no'. Obviously I am no statisician but the 'yes' votes should still add up to the same amount unless of course I'm missing something.
pkk wrote:QUOTE (pkk @ Dec 3 2008, 09:24 AM) You don't get it... ;)

You update Garr to Starbase.You research AdvScouts.Enemy bombs your last Starbase (or captured Garr).You still can research HvyScouts, without having a Starbase (or captured Garr). All you need is a techbase (no pali or research).
Yes but that isn't really relevant. Hvy Scouts should be tied to Starbase in both research and keeping them.
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