from the mouth of a noob..

mcwarren4 · Post by **mcwarren4** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:29 am

If you create a new account because you got booted, just remember that now you have two accounts. You can have up to three. So on any given night you can log in as any of the three callsigns. Stats are tracked back to your primary account regardless of what callsign you are flying under.

revirdraw, the vet server welcomes newbies, just don't do what most newbies always do. Don't ever... ever... ever stop donating. Don't spam for any ships that cost money. You don't have the experience yet to fly them. The BEST thing you can do is stay in a scout... the whole game. Fly into enemy sectors, drop probes, pick up pods, nan the bomb runs, nan the miners, kill enemy probes... there are a million useful things you can do as a newbie and you don't even have to leave your scout craft. In time, you will learn how to dogfight and be useful in other types of ships, but scouting is what makes or breaks a team.

revirdraw · Post by **revirdraw** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:29 am

TheBored wrote:QUOTE (TheBored @ Jun 21 2007, 06:29 PM) No one on the newb server knows what they are doing, other than people with a "?" before their name. Seriously. Learn the controls then move onto the real servers so you can actually learn something useful /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

TB

Well, I know the controls, the things I'm not overly familar with are the tech tree's, the "when to use dumbfire as opposed to locking", when to change the default ship buildout, etc.

I suppose I can always join and just be a turret /mrgreen.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="mrgreen.gif" /> (that's easy enough, I THINK! don't fire til spotted!)

/back to the pod/

Andon · Post by **Andon** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:43 am

turreting is a lot harder than you would think it would be - You have to take into account the movement of the ship you are on, and unless you are good or know how the person flies, you'll be next to useless. There's only one guy that I can turret for, and that's because I know him and how he flies

revirdraw · Post by **revirdraw** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:47 am

Andon wrote:QUOTE (Andon @ Jun 21 2007, 07:43 PM) turreting is a lot harder than you would think it would be - You have to take into account the movement of the ship you are on, and unless you are good or know how the person flies, you'll be next to useless. There's only one guy that I can turret for, and that's because I know him and how he flies

Well, when I'm turreting on the noob server (not saying much, I know) I do okay. I seem to get a fair amount of kills. But I'm expecting a whole new ball game when I move up. Which is why I'm pondering moving up now -- I'm not getting too much out of the noob server.

Death3D · Post by **Death3D** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:51 am

Just use the Lead indicator, and if you feel your up to it, use your throttle setting keys to zoom in on your target and actually see your shots fall on them. Don't do it on a close-up ship, though, turret spin ratios get very diminished and you won't be able to aim worth for @#(!!

Angela Liu · Post by **Angela Liu** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:53 am

revirdraw wrote:QUOTE (revirdraw @ Jun 21 2007, 08:29 PM) Well, I know the controls, the things I'm not overly familar with are the tech tree's, the "when to use dumbfire as opposed to locking", when to change the default ship buildout, etc.

I suppose I can always join and just be a turret /mrgreen.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="mrgreen.gif" /> (that's easy enough, I THINK! don't fire til spotted!)

/back to the pod/

I really don't recommand you do it before @cadet. Turrets are specially important in big servers. It might seems easy, but it is not. Once you get into @cadet and see the bbr/turret section, you'll understand why. Target choosing, accuracy etc. are key to success of a bomber run and take out enemies. Bomber have limited cargo load after AB's so saving ammo is extremely important.

Right now with the large number of newbies and inters (me included), there are limited number of vet that commander trust to fly bbr for them. Mostly, if they have a newbie boarding their ship, they will change ship and "dump" you out. I've seen it done before. They wanted to win for their team, as bombing is a very important part in a conquest game. Don't be frustrated if you log onto main server and you keep getting "dump" out of turret.

QUOTE My second night was not so much -- the maps had around 15+ sectors and only about 20 players. No one experianced was on (the previous night, a 7, and a few 4/5/6's scattered through out) so it seemed to be basically wandering around. All in all, it was kind of unexciting.[/quote]

It happens during other time of day, depends on your timezone. Good time of allegiance usually starts around 5PM GMT to about 2-3 AM in the morning. Other than that, you get scattered people who don't play that much, on different time zone etc.

You have a good start here, not complainning about how good you are and how you rock at other games /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />. Cadet should supply you enough information to be an able player (I'm not saying good, as it takes much longer to gain experiance. My 9th month here and I still lack a lot of skills). Hopefully then you will like main games and quit newbie server.

P.S. probing exit is really bad. I just had a game where we were rix and the op red door were probed. ff wasn't on so i couldn't kill it. Everytime I launch I get rammed to the side and enter the green door again (which are side-by-side on a rix op). Now you know how annoying that is, so don't do it /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> and don't try to think this is a clever strategy to probe enemy's red door. They can shoot it down.

IB_ · Post by **IB_** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:55 am

The default scout loadout sucks so badly I don't know why it is the default. Microsoft had a brainfart.

revirdraw · Post by **revirdraw** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:07 am

Angela Liu wrote:QUOTE (Angela Liu @ Jun 21 2007, 07:53 PM) I really don't recommand you do it before @cadet. Turrets are specially important in big servers. It might seems easy, but it is not. Once you get into @cadet and see the bbr/turret section, you'll understand why. Target choosing, accuracy etc. are key to success of a bomber run and take out enemies. Bomber have limited cargo load after AB's so saving ammo is extremely important.

Right now with the large number of newbies and inters (me included), there are limited number of vet that commander trust to fly bbr for them. Mostly, if they have a newbie boarding their ship, they will change ship and "dump" you out. I've seen it done before. They wanted to win for their team, as bombing is a very important part in a conquest game. Don't be frustrated if you log onto main server and you keep getting "dump" out of turret.

Ah, duly noted. Should I start playing the main server before @cadet, what role should I fulfill? I guess I'm asking, what's the most newb friendly? (I mean, c'mon! @Cadet is more then a week away!) I know that it's unlikely that any one shoe will fit at any given time, but there should be at least one that a noobling like myself will help the team out no matter how much lacking in skill he is!

Hah, maybe just getting a stealth with no missiles and no shields and doing pod pickups? /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> (Provided we aren't bio's, of course /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

Angela Liu · Post by **Angela Liu** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:23 am

There are plenty of roles that are newbie-friendly. One big one is scouting/nanning. You can stay in a scout most of the game, if not all of it when you wish so. Grab a scout and a nan (maybe in cargo depends on situation), and go to find alephs (assuming you know map arrangement), sneak into enemy's home with shield/missle down and become an eye for commander, nan con/miners/bombing run, probe consitantly during the game and deprobing, pickup for pods etc.

meanwhile, start reading the academy here: http://www.allegacademy.org/. Start with the crash course and moves on to Advance couse. Also read the various factions and ships. It will help a lot with game. And trust me on this one: you'll need to read it in cadet anyway as a start, so get a head-start will save you some headache of reading in the first week. You will be asked to read the whole academy in time, but it is spread out evenly during the weeks except the first week. Always better to have a headstart.

Feel free to go download teamspeak and join allegiance server. It's always better to ask questions there and people are generally more helpful than in-game and you can try out new things.

revirdraw · Post by **revirdraw** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:21 am

Angela Liu wrote:QUOTE (Angela Liu @ Jun 21 2007, 08:23 PM) meanwhile, start reading the academy here: http://www.allegacademy.org/. Start with the crash course and moves on to Advance couse. Also read the various factions and ships. It will help a lot with game. And trust me on this one: you'll need to read it in cadet anyway as a start, so get a head-start will save you some headache of reading in the first week. You will be asked to read the whole academy in time, but it is spread out evenly during the weeks except the first week. Always better to have a headstart.

Already started before I even played online. Working my way through advanced now. /cool.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

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