ACS

[vogue]

So I wanted to start a little project to get this gameplay forum concentrated on gameplay again. I'm going to be commanding more games in the coming days and I'll be logging all my losses here. I want the community to criticize the games as to what could've been done better. CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM ONLY - flaming will not be tolerated. I've talked to dome and he will be removing posts that are flaming and not actual useful criticism.

What I would like is for the entire community to contribute to this thread. If you've commanded a game and lost then I want you to post a recap in the same format i'm going to, and then learn from your mistakes with input from the community.

I'll be make the first post:

AEnima vs. K10xBai@ELEM
Med/Med High
Boron

TF EXP vs Giga EXP, SUP, TAC
7v8

-I push my tp low with my ref behind it and my op mid

-I want to push my tp into the middle sector to secure the expansion rock and aid my expansion - but the enemy team gets there first and kills both my scout and my tp

-My op plants high on his side and his op plants high on my side

-His tp and ref plant in the mid right and he starts mining it

-We try to go on miner o but fail to kill any miners - they manage to grab one while we're out on miner o and push our disadvantage

-I had been partialling bombers as a backup and we get bombers up and decide to go kill their op

-We get the op and try to roll on their tp/ref but its too late - they have their expansion up and ints. We get decimated at the aleph

-I get another tp and push it high and into his back sector and rip my expansion in

-They continue to go on miner o and kill more miners - we fail to get any

-Game spirals out of control and we find ourselves getting boxed in by giga cons and they have heavy ints

-They slaughter the last two miners as I push them forward into our expansion and the game is basically over at this point

-Terran joins and it becomes a cluster$#@!, but game was over long before




So this is an example of a write up - nothing too detailed, just an overview of what happened in the game.

As an example of constructive criticism - it could be things like:

1) Tp push was too aggressive - needed to plant it shorter by one sector
2) Your miner o needs to be more coordinated
3) Exp vs. Giga seems to have cost you here
4) Miner defense is lacking - perhaps there's something wrong with the way you run your miner chain

Those are just examples that come to mind - I would hope the community is going to give insights that are harder to find but again that'll depend on the quality of the write up if the person isn't actually there.

So there you have it. I'll be continuing to post my logs as I lose games and I welcome community feedback. I also encourage others to do the same. It's an almost impromptu ACS - no need for a strict program to get feedback on your losses.

EDIT:

MAP LIST:

http://pk.dras.us/users/TheBored/Maps.html

http://www.freeallegiance.org/FAW/index.php/Maps

[qqmwoarplox]

Record the wins too,the community can learn both from wins and losses.

[vogue]

QUOTE (qqqqqq @ Sep 11 2014, 07:03 PM) Record the wins too,the community can learn both from wins and losses.

No. I said losses because I don't want people stroking their egos. If you want to do that then post is separately in gameplay. Losses only.

[Shizoku]

Might help to post a pic of the map, dolomite doesn't exactly ring a bell.

[vogue]

QUOTE (Shizoku @ Sep 11 2014, 07:19 PM) Might help to post a pic of the map, dolomite doesn't exactly ring a bell.

GOOD point - where is the list of maps?

[zombywoof]

Surprisingly, I don't think there IS one.

Sounds like a good project for someone named Vogue, the new runner of ACS

[cashto]

Few questions:

What the $#@! does dolomite look like? How many players on each side?Any attempt to enh miners? (Game was probably lost at this point anyways, but it'd at least keep you in the game a bit longer).Why did your tele die? Patties, or was it sent into a swarm of Giga scouts? Who was the scout that let the con die, so we can shame him? And why did you trust this obviously incompetent pilot in the first place?

Losing an initial con is always a major setback, esp. with TF which expands so slowwwwwwly, and in this particular case it sounds like it delayed your techbase quite a bit. Also, as you said, exp. isn't the best techpath against Giga (as we've learned quite painfully against you guys the past two SGs).

Much respect, BTW, for kicking off this thread. Losses are much more instructional than wins, losses by the #1 allegiance comm (according to P1) even more so. With wins, all you learn is that your opponents were idiots.

[Terran]

QUOTE (vogue @ Sep 11 2014, 05:50 PM) -Terran joins and it becomes a cluster$#@!

there's your prolem right there!

[zombywoof]

I was the scout who died. He ordered me to push the con so I did, and found a caltop, tower, and carrier. I killed the tower then died.

I don't question vogue, he gets angry when you try

[Archangelus]

http://pk.dras.us/users/TheBored/Maps.html

http://www.freeallegiance.org/FAW/index.php/Maps

But I don't think Dolomite is in there, so I am guessing its a new map or something.