Elementary school shooting

Death3D · Post by **Death3D** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:23 am

I would call that great insight, actually.

Sorry for doing an ad hominem here, Night (and most of all using you as an example), but I'll be honest with you. I have come to associate you with exactly what you are describing (maybe just because of the association of XT), and I thought you didn't have insight into those things.... but you not only have insight into it but are aware of how $#@!ed-up this position is.

The reason I use you as an example is to ask you: What mechanisms do you use for yourself (eg. in this precise moment of insight) and what would these mechanisms work in broader context, eg. teaching whatever way you had to cope to somebody else/culture at large?

Bunnywabbit · Post by **Bunnywabbit** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:48 pm

NightRychune wrote:QUOTE (NightRychune @ Dec 18 2012, 02:40 AM) can you say that being injured instead of killed is really better, when those children are going to have to live with the experience of being attacked by an insane mother$#@!er with a knife in a school - a place they're supposed to feel safe?

that sort of trauma stays with a person for the rest of their lives

I took this to mean that you were saying it's better to be dead than be traumatized, or that the two are roughly equivalent. Glad you cleared that up.

StinkerTod · Post by **StinkerTod** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:38 pm

Lets ban Adepts as Adepts spawn more crazy enraged people that want to shoot up Adepts because if you use Adept to enrage someone it is Adepts fault and so must be banned

Broodwich · Post by **Broodwich** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:57 pm

QUOTE Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, who is ordained as a minister in the Southern Baptist Church, said Friday on Fox News that "we've systematically removed God from our schools."

"Should we be so surprised that schools would become a place of carnage?" he asked.[/quote]

Broodwich · Post by **Broodwich** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:00 pm

QUOTE James Dobson, the evangelical founder of the powerful organization Focus on the Family, said on his radio show, "Family Talk," that because "we have turned our back on the Scripture and on God Almighty, I think he has allowed judgment to fall upon us. I think that's what's going on."

Dobson blamed two issues in particular: abortion and gay marriage.

"I mean, millions of people have decided that God doesn't exist or he's irrelevant to me, and we have killed 54 million babies, and the institution of marriage is right on the verge of a complete redefinition. Believe me, that is going to have consequences, too."[/quote]

Viscur · Post by **Viscur** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:12 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uwAo8lcAC4

NightRychune · Post by **NightRychune** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:13 pm

Death3D wrote:QUOTE (Death3D @ Dec 19 2012, 04:23 AM) I would call that great insight, actually.

Sorry for doing an ad hominem here, Night (and most of all using you as an example), but I'll be honest with you. I have come to associate you with exactly what you are describing (maybe just because of the association of XT), and I thought you didn't have insight into those things.... but you not only have insight into it but are aware of how $#@!ed-up this position is.

The reason I use you as an example is to ask you: What mechanisms do you use for yourself (eg. in this precise moment of insight) and what would these mechanisms work in broader context, eg. teaching whatever way you had to cope to somebody else/culture at large?

on a personal level, there's not really a good solution - you can't, say, force someone to see a therapist, be placed on antidepressants, or locked into a mental hospital because they seemed a little angry or "disturbed" - that person has to make that decision themselves, and i can't go "look these are all the lessons i learned up to this point and why i do what i do" and expect people to take it to heart because, well, people don't work like that

on a cultural level, the obsessive media coverage is the biggest problem. all of the information about what the murderer likes - the video games he played, the clothes he wore, his social frustrations or disabilities, the way that he felt like there was nothing left for him in life, the way he felt socially ostracized and....

all of these qualities paint a picture of a person that people in similar places can relate to, and it shows desperate, angry, hurt people that they have a recourse that will get them the attention they seek - and that, with nothing left to lose, they can die with the satisfaction that they'll be known and remembered in some $#@!ed up way

Hellsyng · Post by **Hellsyng** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:34 pm

Brood's quotes remind of why I hate being a Republican. I get associated with all of those bull@#(! arguments against gay marriage and abortion which are completely stupid that are all because "God" want it that way or caused it.

It makes me want to ask them if their God is all knowing, all controlling and benevolent why the $#@! would he make people murder each other or let gay people be born if it was against his will? Their arguments make no sense to me.

fuzzylunkin1 · Post by **fuzzylunkin1** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:07 pm

Oh, by the way, I have Asperger's. Apparently I'm a serial killer.

I do agree with Night, the media plays a big part in all of this. $#@! the media.

Broodwich · Post by **Broodwich** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:08 pm

vir and viscur bring up a big issue I've thought is part of the problem for quite some time and is very relevant. However as he himself says in viscur's video this isnt a US problem, but a global one. News agencies arent much different from each other. Yet in the US we get all the school shootings and gun violence while the rest of the civilized world barely registers.