Desperate times

Post by **Papsmear** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:43 am

Something needs to be done. Last Sunday was the lowest turnout I have ever seen from SysX.
I can't remember the last time I've seen GB play a squad game, PK/SF & BS hardly play squad games anymore.
RT/NI & SysX are the most active squads and even we are having a hard time showing 10 for squad games.

I think there will be alot of resistance to merger squads and I'm not sure the best way to merge them. Except for nostalgic reasons, I'm not sure why someone would want to be a member of a squad that never or almost never plays squad games.

Post by **pkk** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:46 am

Papsmear wrote:QUOTE (Papsmear @ Jul 21 2012, 01:43 PM) I think there will be alot of resistance to merger squads and I'm not sure the best way to merge them.

You're wrong, there won't be resistance, there is. People don't want to loose their tag, which they were for ages...

Adept · Post by **Adept** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:58 pm

I can't help but feel ACSS actually going live would start to fix the playerbase issue.

At least if combined with a big push in advertising and a stern hand from allegs to make any asshats cool their heels with a ban if they abuse the newbies while we rebuild.

djrbk · Post by **djrbk** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:01 pm

I doubt merges will fix much. The issue is more about a lack of primetime than one sunday game a week.

Spunkmeyer · Post by **Spunkmeyer** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:03 pm

djrbk wrote:QUOTE (djrbk @ Jul 21 2012, 09:01 AM) I doubt merges will fix much. The issue is more about a lack of primetime than one sunday game a week.

Well, yes, but it will make squad games happen, which is always nice.

TheAlaskan · Post by **TheAlaskan** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:26 pm

SLs and ASLs, start recruiting like your squads' lives depend on it.

MonAG · Post by **MonAG** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:28 pm

I believe that forcibly merging the squads is of no real value. You can make temporary mixed squad games with the same results, and avoid getting into "political" discussions and subsequent trolling.

Squad game time, has become the time of the week when most squaded pilots show up, with the hopes of biting into a good game (pilots show up, even if their squad have no scheduled game). This is an asset that is being wasted. Last Sunday for example, we couldn't get a proper squad game running, but we had enough good pilots to try build a good game. Instead we had a couple of disorganized brawls, with resigns at 5 minutes, no Mumble, no coordination (I personally got frustrated after one hour and left to do something more useful, I can play PUGs any time of the week...).

This can be solved with a simple habit: if no match is scheduled, the 2 squads with most members present face each other. The remaining squaded pilots are evenly distributed among the 2 teams (either individually or as a squad). Pilots should also try to connect to mumble for this games (a habit that is getting lost lately).

Squad game time is our last line of defense, and if we don't handle it carefully, we may lose it as well.

qqmwoarplox · Post by **qqmwoarplox** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:38 pm

I dont see why a squad should exist if it doesnt participate in squadgames.

Spunkmeyer · Post by **Spunkmeyer** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:57 pm

qqqqqq wrote:QUOTE (qqqqqq @ Jul 21 2012, 02:38 PM) I dont see why a squad should exist if it doesnt participate in squadgames.

True. Tags of inactive squads should be disabled. These are not vanity plates.

MonAG · Post by **MonAG** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:47 pm

Spunkmeyer wrote:QUOTE (Spunkmeyer @ Jul 21 2012, 04:57 PM) True. Tags of inactive squads should be disabled. These are not vanity plates.

Agree. New squads have the requirement of 15 members and 3 squad games with at least 10 players. Probably some existing squads aren't able to fulfill those requiremnts if asked to do so...