+1, chased my int 3 sectors till i was out of fuel to finally pod me, that son of a bitch has podded me more times than any respectable whore in this gamePhalanxe wrote:QUOTE (Phalanxe @ Jun 27 2011, 10:48 PM) damn fertz
Newb questions
phoenix1 wrote:QUOTE (phoenix1 @ May 5 2013, 08:35 PM) Vogue is clearly #1 and commanding against him feels like commanding against Spideycw at times... though he lacks that little bit of "I don't care who's on my team or what the factions are, it's going to be a stomp anyways" that Spidey managed to pull off in his heyday.
I am trying the saitek fix right now, the link to the joystick dll and autohotkey file seems to be broken...
Also, PPJoy seems not to work at all. I followed your instructions but when you say to click modify, it is greyed out. And by default, i set up all keys as you said, but virtual joystick does not work. It does not show any activity neither in game nor in control panel of windows. Also, when modifying ppjoy config, "scan" option doesnt work - it seems like ppjoy cannot read my joystick?
Changing to windows drivers doesnt help either.
I am at Windows XP, 32 bit
Also, PPJoy seems not to work at all. I followed your instructions but when you say to click modify, it is greyed out. And by default, i set up all keys as you said, but virtual joystick does not work. It does not show any activity neither in game nor in control panel of windows. Also, when modifying ppjoy config, "scan" option doesnt work - it seems like ppjoy cannot read my joystick?
Changing to windows drivers doesnt help either.
I am at Windows XP, 32 bit
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Axel Kolle
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Start a utility called ppjoyjoy to assign your joystick axes to ppjoy. Fairly obvious how to do that. And ppjoyjoy needs to be an open window for some reason. Do not minimise it. It is included in the build I downloaded, which is the latest. Try sourceforge for the latest, as he released ppjoy to Open Source and, it seems, closed his homepage. I remember him mentioning sourceforge.
Other than that, I am afraid I have no advice.
Another thing. For other, older games, check for a Logitech utility which allows you to switch ppjoy to ID 0. Allegiance does not need to do this, though. I think it is wingmanextreme.com but am not sure. The link may be on the Logitech forums, but the utility was written by the dev team.
Patience, young padawan.
Other than that, I am afraid I have no advice.
Another thing. For other, older games, check for a Logitech utility which allows you to switch ppjoy to ID 0. Allegiance does not need to do this, though. I think it is wingmanextreme.com but am not sure. The link may be on the Logitech forums, but the utility was written by the dev team.
Patience, young padawan.
Don't call me a scout whore, I am a scout courtesan.
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Axel Kolle
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Axel Kolle
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Hey all.
I'm new and I'm ... clueless.
So I got a couple questions:
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1. Once upon a time ... just yesterday ... in Bootsector Bravo
Ingame-Scenario:
- Team Blue went Tac vs team yellow Exp
- It's early endgame, the (rather large) map is given away and the battle for the middle-sector is being waged back and forth
-> team yellow has it's exp-complex in this sector and is keeping a keen eye on the alephs
- Team blue launches a 3-craft stealth-bomber attack on the Expansion-complex
Enter: noob GoodWill
(who somehow got a rating of Novice 6 within notime so he doesnt look like a noob-newb I guess)
- has been probing like a madman for almost the entire game
- has been the dude who had long deployed the Rescue-probes in the middle-sector everybody has been using for a while now
- even saved a miner and a carrier during the game (always proud if that actually works hehe)
- apparently doesn't notice the little "S" next to the bomber-icons and doesn't think any more of it other than:
"Oh bombrun! Better get stuck to this guys tailpipe with a nan. Whyever nobody else is guarding them ... well, time to be a hero."
"The guy" (stealth-bomber pilot #1):
- to (GoodWill) "Get away from me GoodWill! Get the $#@! away."
- to (team) "Boot GoodWill!"
- to (team) "Boot him!"
GoodWill:
- to (team) "Nonono don't boot me I'm uney- BOOOOOOM -> got blown to pieces by an Interceptor
"The guy"
- to (team) "Don't ever follow a stealthbomber"
GoodWill:
- to (team) "Thanks for the instruction"
Some other guy:
- to (team) "Always TRY to HELP your team." (kinda made me laugh, I mean: wtf is that supposed to mean?)
---
Conclusions:
Ok, the bombrun failed but at least it wasn't because I actually unveiled that bomber.
It sort of went well for me because I didn't get booted in the end.
I do get the stealth-bomber part now and understand the mistake I made ...
Will probably look into those radar-icons once again too.
Questions:
a) What was that intended boot about?
-> about punishing a stupid player and hence the poor newb GoodWill who thought he was doing well?
-> or just about making that bombrun happen, hence: GoodWill gotta go before he gets the whores on my tail ?
-> other?
b) What should the poor newb GoodWill have done if he had been booted?
-> crawl into a dark-corner and cry himself to sleep?
-> relog with a different callsign ... after all it wasn't personal ?
-> other?
c) Would that have been a "legal" boot?
d) Does GoodWills not-so-overly-newbish rank of Novice 6 play any part in this?
Would a newplayer(0) or Intermediate 4 have gotten the boot just the same?
e) Is that "bootmania" really necessary?
-> I mean, I am old enough to not take it to heart all that much and as you can probably see I already have an idea why the whole boot-thing even came up. Also, I am guessing that one run was sort of a majorly critical moment in the game since after it failed everything went south but I must say it still kinda sucked:
Image yourself in poor newb GoodWills situation ... working your scoutey butt off all game long and what do you get "all of a sudden"?
-> BOOT THAT SUCKA!
f) Are there any ways to instruct newbies more clearly on the option to relog with a different callsign?
-> It's in the wiki ... somewhere ... burrowed under loads of crosslinks ... behind a door that says "Careful! Hungry Tiger!" ... in the CadetI section which you dont access directly from the mainpage and it says:
"You can just relog with another callsign if you get booted."
It seemed to me like this advice defeats the purpose of booting actual offenders and troll-players but in all of my (two actual) boot-cases it would have been very sound advice if I had known its possible. Instead, I couldn't reenter the game ... and crawled into a dark corner to cry myself to sleep.
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2. EWS-probes
They got a Scanrange of 500-700 meters, depending on tech, but:
What is their signature?
I'm new and I'm ... clueless.
So I got a couple questions:
--------
1. Once upon a time ... just yesterday ... in Bootsector Bravo
Ingame-Scenario:
- Team Blue went Tac vs team yellow Exp
- It's early endgame, the (rather large) map is given away and the battle for the middle-sector is being waged back and forth
-> team yellow has it's exp-complex in this sector and is keeping a keen eye on the alephs
- Team blue launches a 3-craft stealth-bomber attack on the Expansion-complex
Enter: noob GoodWill
(who somehow got a rating of Novice 6 within notime so he doesnt look like a noob-newb I guess)- has been probing like a madman for almost the entire game
- has been the dude who had long deployed the Rescue-probes in the middle-sector everybody has been using for a while now
- even saved a miner and a carrier during the game (always proud if that actually works hehe)
- apparently doesn't notice the little "S" next to the bomber-icons and doesn't think any more of it other than:
"Oh bombrun! Better get stuck to this guys tailpipe with a nan. Whyever nobody else is guarding them ... well, time to be a hero."
"The guy" (stealth-bomber pilot #1):
- to (GoodWill) "Get away from me GoodWill! Get the $#@! away."
- to (team) "Boot GoodWill!"
- to (team) "Boot him!"
GoodWill:
- to (team) "Nonono don't boot me I'm uney- BOOOOOOM -> got blown to pieces by an Interceptor
"The guy"
- to (team) "Don't ever follow a stealthbomber"
GoodWill:
- to (team) "Thanks for the instruction"
Some other guy:
- to (team) "Always TRY to HELP your team." (kinda made me laugh, I mean: wtf is that supposed to mean?)
---
Conclusions:
Ok, the bombrun failed but at least it wasn't because I actually unveiled that bomber.
It sort of went well for me because I didn't get booted in the end.
I do get the stealth-bomber part now and understand the mistake I made ...
Will probably look into those radar-icons once again too.
Questions:
a) What was that intended boot about?
-> about punishing a stupid player and hence the poor newb GoodWill who thought he was doing well?
-> or just about making that bombrun happen, hence: GoodWill gotta go before he gets the whores on my tail ?
-> other?
b) What should the poor newb GoodWill have done if he had been booted?
-> crawl into a dark-corner and cry himself to sleep?
-> relog with a different callsign ... after all it wasn't personal ?
-> other?
c) Would that have been a "legal" boot?
d) Does GoodWills not-so-overly-newbish rank of Novice 6 play any part in this?
Would a newplayer(0) or Intermediate 4 have gotten the boot just the same?
e) Is that "bootmania" really necessary?
-> I mean, I am old enough to not take it to heart all that much and as you can probably see I already have an idea why the whole boot-thing even came up. Also, I am guessing that one run was sort of a majorly critical moment in the game since after it failed everything went south but I must say it still kinda sucked:
Image yourself in poor newb GoodWills situation ... working your scoutey butt off all game long and what do you get "all of a sudden"?
-> BOOT THAT SUCKA!
f) Are there any ways to instruct newbies more clearly on the option to relog with a different callsign?
-> It's in the wiki ... somewhere ... burrowed under loads of crosslinks ... behind a door that says "Careful! Hungry Tiger!" ... in the CadetI section which you dont access directly from the mainpage and it says:
"You can just relog with another callsign if you get booted."
It seemed to me like this advice defeats the purpose of booting actual offenders and troll-players but in all of my (two actual) boot-cases it would have been very sound advice if I had known its possible. Instead, I couldn't reenter the game ... and crawled into a dark corner to cry myself to sleep.
-----------------------------------
2. EWS-probes
They got a Scanrange of 500-700 meters, depending on tech, but:
What is their signature?
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TurkeyXIII
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a) -> or just about making that bombrun happen, hence: GoodWill gotta go before he gets the whores on my tail ?
b) -> relog with a different callsign ... after all it wasn't personal ?, but
-> crawl into a dark-corner and cry himself to sleep? is good too.
c) definately.
d) Sort-of. Losing the (#) after your name makes commanders less reluctant to boot you, because it carries no penalty (except things like boot rampages or retaliatory boot). However this is one of a few cases where it would have been OK to boot newplayer(0) iff he were right next to an sb and was given adequate warnings to move away.
e) I'm not a fan of other people shouting at the comm to boot someone, but I do it myself on occasion so take that as you will.
f) There's a code change in R6 (a really basic one) to give a slightly more informative boot message. If you have an idea for something good to put in it, the ticket is here.
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0.3/0.25/0.2 for EWS 1/2/3.
a) -> or just about making that bombrun happen, hence: GoodWill gotta go before he gets the whores on my tail ?
b) -> relog with a different callsign ... after all it wasn't personal ?, but
-> crawl into a dark-corner and cry himself to sleep? is good too.
c) definately.
d) Sort-of. Losing the (#) after your name makes commanders less reluctant to boot you, because it carries no penalty (except things like boot rampages or retaliatory boot). However this is one of a few cases where it would have been OK to boot newplayer(0) iff he were right next to an sb and was given adequate warnings to move away.
e) I'm not a fan of other people shouting at the comm to boot someone, but I do it myself on occasion so take that as you will.
f) There's a code change in R6 (a really basic one) to give a slightly more informative boot message. If you have an idea for something good to put in it, the ticket is here.
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0.3/0.25/0.2 for EWS 1/2/3.
QUOTE (Randall Munroe)14.2: Turkey consumption rate of the average American in milligrams per minute[/quote]
Thanks for the quick-answer.
1. f) Replied to the respective forum-post concerning the boot-message since I don't really "get" the whole ticket thing.
2. Good to know, thanks.
So your early-game scout will detect an EWS1 at a range of 720m, which is about two small map-grids?
Could you tell me where you got this info from cause I couldn't find it in TEK and wiki neither ... ?
1. f) Replied to the respective forum-post concerning the boot-message since I don't really "get" the whole ticket thing.
2. Good to know, thanks.
So your early-game scout will detect an EWS1 at a range of 720m, which is about two small map-grids?
Could you tell me where you got this info from cause I couldn't find it in TEK and wiki neither ... ?