Will the nut train collapse with the Tressel?

Post by **FreeBeer** » Mon May 30, 2011 10:38 pm

Players were "selling team gear"? Not sure why that would be a violation. Seems odd, but I presume there's some logic there.

MrChaos · Post by **MrChaos** » Mon May 30, 2011 11:44 pm

FreeBeer wrote:QUOTE (FreeBeer @ May 30 2011, 04:38 PM) Players were "selling team gear"? Not sure why that would be a violation. Seems odd, but I presume there's some logic there.

Ohio State has been one of the dirtiest programs in the nation during Tressel's reign. The Bull, Maurice Clarret (sp), and something Troy (not a fan of theirs) all were blue chippers who were caught doing things wrong and got disciplined by the NCAA, with the saddest of them ending up in federal prison for unrelated items. This is in addition to the 30 plus other players that where charged with crimes from everything from child molestation to underage drinking, not to mention the 300 plus violations of NCAA rules over the last ten years by the program (not just football) too. They make USC and Reggie Bush seem like paragons of virtue

The players were selling their rings and jeresys to boosters for cash. A great big no no and grounds for dismal from any college program. One of boosters buying the stuff was under investigation for drug sales. Tressel was informed of the practice in general, the booster specifically and did nothing for nine months, other then to send an email initially to a whitewasher to "handle it". Oh and he then lied about knowing about it until he was outted by some internet sports reports.

The players all have been buying cars from the same few dealerships and salesmen (one guy has sold over fifty cars to players). Players who are dirt poor receive credit and vehicles I can't afford through dubious co-signers, for unbelievable deals . The worst, but to be fair, hasn't been proven part is the loans are "forgiven". There have been continuous allegations and even confessions of boosters who gave the money handshake, paying for a work that was basically to watch paint dry etc etc.

More is about to come out, all new, and much worse is the rumor with SI being the news breaker. Tressel has lawyered up and the adminstration has almost over night started treating him like he has the stink touch. All a bad sign for OSU's football program.

links for the thinks

Why he was asked to resign
Pryor and his SIX cars are about to go nuclear

All by the Columbus Dispatch, the biggest backer of the program in the country.

Maurice Clarret said the same thing about the cars almost a decade ago
Lying about the whole car thing wasn't just Tressel btw

And finally the potential smoking gun for "forgiving" the loans Thaddeus Gibson seems to have been covered up but the thing that can't be covered up is the ridiculous proce paid by him

So see FreeBeer it isn't the chicken@#(! violation variety type of scandal that helped do in Rick Rod for example, rather its a program that is paying its players and getting caught on it to a degree. The stuff they can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt is the bigger story.

FIZ · Post by **FIZ** » Tue May 31, 2011 1:18 am

College sports... icky

Post by **FreeBeer** » Tue May 31, 2011 4:06 am

MrChaos wrote:QUOTE (MrChaos @ May 30 2011, 08:44 PM) So see FreeBeer it isn't the chicken@#(! violation variety type of scandal that helped do in Rick Rod for example, rather its a program that is paying its players and getting caught on it to a degree. The stuff they can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt is the bigger story.

Fair enough. I knew it had to be something more than what that article said - and even that wasn't clear - "selling team gear" could be something as innocent as working a concession stand selling team tees and caps, etc. I can definitely see where selling rings and the like to supporters is the equivalent of kickbacks, etc.

We had a bit of an issue when I was in uni with our basketball team. Ineligible player. It wasn't exactly "wink-wink, nudge nudge", though. Seems the ineligible player (ineligible because he played some college b-ball in the US - I'm not conversant in the rules - which made him ineligible to play (for that year anyway). The kid assumed his younger brother's ID and got in that way. Not something the coaches could readily defend against (or even suspect). Still, controversy like that always upsets the rather staid university environment.

MrChaos · Post by **MrChaos** » Tue May 31, 2011 10:46 am

Poorly written, mostly filler from past wronging though it may be here is the article

Around thirty players now with one kid getting a car for 4 tickets and a watch... I'm betting this isn't even close to done. The problem with this @#(! is the NCAA can't really make them talk about anything, so as long as everyone stonewalls the damage is always cosmetic. A head coac, AD, a few players but the program never has a limb hacked off

DasSmiter · Post by **DasSmiter** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:40 am

Why is selling team gear even a thing that they get into trouble for?

Icky · Post by **Icky** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:27 am

FIZ wrote:QUOTE (FIZ @ May 30 2011, 09:18 PM) College sports... icky

Keep me out of it.

Axel Kolle · Post by **Axel Kolle** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:15 am

Lol.
Sad that "non professional" sports the world over would be like that to some extent.
Prestige=money one way or the other I suppose.

A friend of mine went to a school in South Africa that injected their rugby players (13-15 years of age!!) with male hormones. In best junkie style it was done under the toes, to hide the traces. Sick and dangerous practices. It never made the news.