Bard wrote:QUOTE (Bard @ Sep 15 2010, 08:35 PM) I didn't break beta. It was largely broken early on by the timed cutoff of the build server so that I could upload files for ASGS users in Beta Mode because that often led to bugged versions being the "existing" one due to the aforementioned poor coding processes (I wanted a saturday cutoff so patches could be implemented, Imago wanted wednesday morning US time, we compromised at noon on tuesday which, as you can tell, still proved FAR too short a time period) and later by Imago's complete abandonment of his undocumented changes to the beta server (some of which involved reviving exe files that were deprecated YEARS AGO, not to mention linking several perl sripts to both service restarts and registry keys that ran process restarts automatically due to code commits, making them exceedingly difficult to hunt down and turn off).
Strange, I don't know what bugged versions you were talking about. The ones provided by Imago were fine, only the ones on ASGS were broken. Most of the time, ASGS autoupdate was missing critical files.
Imago created a faster way to test stuff by using Beta autoupdate - I think this was a great idea. I've seen it in action, how it led to builds getting tested immediately. It allowed the developers to work much, much closer with the testers. Yes maybe it's a misnomer (being more Alpha than Beta), but I think Imago's whole setup was a great productivity boost and is the major reason why R6 brings more changes than any previous release.
Yes it broke ASGS autoupdate, but that only resulted a lot of shouting about which way Beta should be tested (Imago wanted everyone to install Beta separately; Bard wanted everyone to use ASGS).
Only a few weeks later,
pkk figured out how to make everyone happy. Note the post date: Aug 31 2010, 06:17 PM
It involves changes on both sides: in Imago's Beta deployment code and on the ASGS admin side.
Imago committed the code changes in revision 989 on Sep 1st, 01:51 AM.
On the other hand, Bard still hasn't fixed the ASGS admin side and still is directing people to a broken Beta.
pkk has mentioned the fix as response to every single news post, but Bard just ignored him. (at least that's how I remember it - Bard deleted all old posts)
ASGS Beta remains broken, and Bard just weekly tells people to waste their time trying the same old broken build.
