Hiders

[EdDaalleg]

QUOTE (lexaal @ Aug 28 2010, 08:43 PM) Some may think that this is self-irony, but I believe that happens when your "mode of forum reading" is: quote and insult.

I think you mean "...but I believe that happens when your mode of forum reading is 'quote and insult'," - @#(!head.



On a more serious note! The problem with easily identifying hiders based on the leader board could be mitigated by only updating the leader board once a day at a semi-random time (e.g. between 2300 and 0100). It won't protect the high rankers, but the average voob population would be much harder to ID.

[Elzam_]

@Heyoka - Chill bro. Weylin wasn't even directing that at you, seeing as how I quoted it and posted about how you got recruited AFTER it. You don't need to go all tranquil fury on him. No one is saying you're a jerk or anything. Although I do feel somewhat obliged to point out that recruiting as a total newbie is fairly uncommon...

PS - No more large space posts please.

[spideycw]

QUOTE (Edmond @ Aug 30 2010, 11:54 AM) It won't protect the high rankers, but the average voob population would be much harder to ID.

The high rankers are the ones who need the protection, not the random 10's

[HSharp]

QUOTE (spideycw @ Aug 30 2010, 09:21 PM) The high rankers are the ones who need the protection, not the random 10's

Why?

[Broodwich]

i thought it was fairly clear that anonymity was only one facet of having hiders

i believe what spidey means is that there are about 25 (active) people ranked 13, versus 2 people ranked 20. Figuring out the higher ranked people's 3 hiders would take very little effort and time, whereas the voobs have more protection from their own abundance and general lack of skill, thereby having very little prominent traits by which to identify them by

edit: i suppose i should say 2 hiders, since one is your primary

[HSharp]

The anonymity isn't really necessary, and as well all know that the ranking system isn't 100% accurate, I would rather have Sheffwill then pkk or aarmstrong on my team, it is worse for the voobies though, I dunno if I have just given starsailor a bomber and just thrown away my money or if I am letting champy manage my miners because they are in hiders, rep is worth more then rank and hiders can devastate that.

[EdDaalleg]

QUOTE (spideycw @ Aug 30 2010, 03:21 PM) The high rankers are the ones who need the protection, not the random 10's

That's just your high-rank-centric point-of-view, man!

I posed it as a pretty easy fix to resolve part of the hider problems. It will probably also save some money from lower bandwidth usage and it will stop SolapStripe from lagging! (Thanks, Freeb!)

If you want to improve high-ranked hiders' anonymity then I also propose displaying the same rank for anyone with an 18 or higher rank ( e.g. spideycw(VH), Broodwich(VH), *god(VH) ). This would increase the pool of people you would need to guess from. This would only display in game, so you still get credit if you care about your rank.

I am not sure how hard this would be to code. I suspect not very.

EDIT: Also, if you look at it in terms of "anonymity gained per admin action" my first proposal is far more economical!

EDIT:EDIT: You would also need to find a way to have it change how the total team rank is displayed and how AB worked which would probably complicate the whole thing enough to make this totally unfeasible.

EDIT:EDIT:EDIT: Displaying the team's total AllegScore as TeamAS+n(VH), where n is the number of high-rankers, might be an acceptable work-around to obfuscating the team AS and $#@!ing with AB. If you were extremely dedicated and kind of lucky you could find out what the (VH) was covering, but I think it would increase the lifetime of most high-ranked hiders.

[guitarism]

QUOTE (HSharp @ Aug 30 2010, 05:11 PM) The anonymity isn't really necessary, and as well all know that the ranking system isn't 100% accurate, I would rather have Sheffwill then pkk or aarmstrong on my team, it is worse for the voobies though, I dunno if I have just given starsailor a bomber and just thrown away my money or if I am letting champy manage my miners because they are in hiders, rep is worth more then rank and hiders can devastate that.

There are days I don't want to be me Hsharp. There are days I don't want to drive the HTT, or manage miners or have to backseat. And if I'm playing as me, thats something what I'm asked to do. If i'm playing as RandomIdiot356 No one knows

[HSharp]

QUOTE (guitarism @ Aug 30 2010, 11:28 PM) There are days I don't want to be me Hsharp.

Poor Gui, just remember there are a lot worse lives to live.

As a commander though I don't want to let some person who sucks in a hider fly the expensive frigate or let you onto my team on your hider because you will bootiny me, you make your rep and you have to deal with it.

[FreeBeer]

QUOTE (Edmond @ Aug 30 2010, 07:11 PM) it will stop Solap from lagging!

Solap doesn't lag. Trust me.