As a newbie, I'm finding it increasingly more frustrating to perform the various roles expected of me in the time in which I have to do them. Namely, I need to do all of them immediately, preferably b4 the commander has told me to.
All kidding aside, there is so much in-game chat that an order can go thru the chat window and I may never see it. B4 I know it, I'm getting a dressing down by a commander for ignoring an order. Then I'm furiously scrolling back thru through the chat to see what I missed. Meanwhile the commander is threatening to boot me, and I haven't found what he's even talking about!
There are 2 problems here: I don't know the lingo yet, nor am I knowledgeable enough to understand some of the nomenclature or terms used in what appears to be just chat. So if the order isn't clear, or directed to me, I may not even recognize it at all.Second, I can't quickly separate the commanders chat from everyone else's.
Will the admins consider making the commander chat a different color so its easier to see? Can the commanders speak laymens terms when giving an order to us newbies? I'm sure most, if not all, newbies experience this to varying degrees. The frustration comes from how much the newbie cares about doing a good job and how much he feels like he's being prevented from doing so.
I'm here cuz i want to be, and I'm trying to be the player everyone wants on their team.
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Commanders talk in alleg short-hand to make orders more efficient for those who know what they are doing. With the best will in the world (genuinely) you probably don't yet.
Play more games, learn whats going on, follow the orders you can, and all will start to click for you i'm sure. Although some players take things VERY seriously, you've got to remember that if they didn't, this game wouldn't even be here, so take any criticism with a pinch of salt, remember it probably isn't personal (unless you've acted like a dick) and noone will remember it next time round. Just enjoy your own game, and you will improve.
If you're willing to put the effort in, you'll improve alot, if not you can still enjoy it!
Play more games, learn whats going on, follow the orders you can, and all will start to click for you i'm sure. Although some players take things VERY seriously, you've got to remember that if they didn't, this game wouldn't even be here, so take any criticism with a pinch of salt, remember it probably isn't personal (unless you've acted like a dick) and noone will remember it next time round. Just enjoy your own game, and you will improve.
If you're willing to put the effort in, you'll improve alot, if not you can still enjoy it!
Omnia Mutantur, Nihil Interit.I know that was facetious, but it's also totally possible once you understand the gameplay. If you haven't joined Allegiance Flight School/Cadet II either will help you get a feel for the usual flow of the game and what will be expected of you at certain times.Doc Ock wrote:QUOTE (Doc Ock @ Apr 7 2010, 04:42 PM) As a newbie, I'm finding it increasingly more frustrating to perform the various roles expected of me in the time in which I have to do them. Namely, I need to do all of them immediately, preferably b4 the commander has told me to.
Here are some general tips.
In the opening minutes of the game you're expected to:
Scout for alephs, rocks, enemy constructor offense, and enemy constructorsProbeDefend constructors in an int/figDefend constructors in a nanAttack constructors
As a new player you should probably stick to scouting/probing or nanning. If you have a number you can get away with goofing off in a fig/int but may be helping the enemy team more! If everyone else has already taken a scout you might consider a fig/int or you may be TF or Giga.
shortly after that you will be expected to:
Defend minersAttack minersParticipate in a bomb runDefend from a bomb runAttack any new consDefend any new consContinue probing/scouting for enemy stuff
Again, new players will be more successful and useful with the scouting/nanning roles, but if you have a (#) you can get away with screwing around a bit here. Don't be afraid to participate in the miner/con attacks if your team is otherwise OK - Just hit the nans first. Miners aren't very hard to hit and miner nans aren't much harder; so they're decent practice for the beginner.
Bombing will be the choice of the commander. Bombing is certainly not necessary in most games so avoid asking why your team doesn't have them. "Just say NO to `NO."
Later in the game things get varied and will depend on what tech path(s) each team went:
Galving (Sup) (Not end-game tech, but later than the middle econ part of the game)Setting up/Defending from Bombing/TP runs (Sup)Setting up/Defending from HTT runs (Exp)Setting up/Defending from SB run (Tac)
Those are really just the oversimplified end-game for each tech path. What people actually do depends a lot your factions, on the fad of the month (e.g. I saw spidey do it), and who's playing (e.g. HEY! Kum's on!). You don't really see HTTs a lot and Exp will probably int bomb. Tac is not commonly played too. Having two techs will add some variety to end-game. And, absolutely crushing the enemies econ will often end the game with a resign.
Teamspeak is definitely a good choice since you'll probably get individual attention and you're less likely to have to sort out useful commands from BS.
Last edited by EdDaalleg on Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:43 am, edited 1 time in total.
One thing that tends to bother newbies a lot is that they think every single line of chat is intended for them personally, so they try to fulfill every order at once, and they feel terrible when the comm gets mad at the rest of the team for not doing their job.
As a new player, you shouldn't put so much importance on what's happening in the chat. Yes, the comm gives important orders and stuff, but they're mostly to enhance the situational awareness people already have - unless the comm is literally yelling "EVERYONE SHOULD DROP WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND COME DO THIS", most orders are intended only for those who aren't already doing something more important. You should pretty much just take one task (like scouting or miner d) and stick to it for the entire game (while watching the rest of the game using the minimap), at least until you have a better idea of what really needs to be done.
As a new player, you shouldn't put so much importance on what's happening in the chat. Yes, the comm gives important orders and stuff, but they're mostly to enhance the situational awareness people already have - unless the comm is literally yelling "EVERYONE SHOULD DROP WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND COME DO THIS", most orders are intended only for those who aren't already doing something more important. You should pretty much just take one task (like scouting or miner d) and stick to it for the entire game (while watching the rest of the game using the minimap), at least until you have a better idea of what really needs to be done.
