It is true...
we have no lawyers in our community he could ask to write a letter saying that?
i mean, if i was a lawyer, i woudlnt mind taking 5 min to write a latter saying "lol you noob you cant sue us, y0u suck at dar internetz lolz"
or whatever it is lawyers do.
well, obviously if it takes more work than that then i guess maybe not but...
i mean, if i was a lawyer, i woudlnt mind taking 5 min to write a latter saying "lol you noob you cant sue us, y0u suck at dar internetz lolz"
or whatever it is lawyers do.
well, obviously if it takes more work than that then i guess maybe not but...
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asteroid12
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I live in Holland, so i can smoke as much weed, hash or whatever, as i like. A lot of my friends enjoy a little
maryjane now and than, and this hasn't stopped them from becoming succesfull docters, lawyers, or diplomats.
It would be ridicilous if I couldn't speak freely about smoking weed on a site hosted on a server in the VS.
Most Americans pride themselves on their country being a beacon of liberty and democracy and an example for
other country's and cultures all over the world. Maybe your freedom isn't so great as you would like it to be. Maybe your government isn't so democratic afterall. Maybe thats why most country's dont like the Bush "either your with us, or you're against us" attitude. Here are some facts for you:
North Korea, Turkmenistan, Eritrea the worst violators of press freedom
France, the United States and Japan slip further Mauritania and Haiti gain much ground
New countries have moved ahead of some Western democracies in the fifth annual Reporters Without Borders Worldwide Press Freedom Index, issued today, while the most repressive countries are still the same ones.
“Unfortunately nothing has changed in the countries that are the worst predators of press freedom,” the organisation said, “and journalists in North Korea, Eritrea, Turkmenistan, Cuba, Burma and China are still risking their life or imprisonment for trying to keep us informed. These situations are extremely serious and it is urgent that leaders of these countries accept criticism and stop routinely cracking down on the media so harshly.
"Each year new countries in less-developed parts of the world move up the Index to positions above some European countries or the United States. This is good news and shows once again that, even though very poor, countries can be very observant of freedom of expression. Meanwhile the steady erosion of press freedom in the United States, France and Japan is extremely alarming,” Reporters Without Borders said.
The three worst violators of free expression - North Korea, bottom of the Index at 168th place, Turkmenistan (167th) and Eritrea (166th) - have clamped down further. The torture death of Turkmenistan journalist Ogulsapar Muradova shows that the country’s leader, “President-for-Life” Separmurad Nyazov, is willing to use extreme violence against those who dare to criticise him. Reporters Without Borders is also extremely concerned about a number of Eritrean journalists who have been imprisoned in secret for more than five years. The all-powerful North Korean leader, Kim Jong-il, also continues to totally control the media.
Northern European countries once again come top of the Index, with no recorded censorship, threats, intimidation or physical reprisals in Finland, Ireland, Iceland and the Netherlands, which all share first place.
Deterioration in the United States and Japan, with France also slipping
The United States (53rd) has fallen nine places since last year, after being in 17th position in the first year of the Index, in 2002. Relations between the media and the Bush administration sharply deteriorated after the president used the pretext of “national security” to regard as suspicious any journalist who questioned his “war on terrorism.” The zeal of federal courts which, unlike those in 33 US states, refuse to recognise the media’s right not to reveal its sources, even threatens journalists whose investigations have no connection at all with terrorism.
Freelance journalist and blogger Josh Wolf was imprisoned when he refused to hand over his video archives. Sudanese cameraman Sami al-Haj, who works for the pan-Arab broadcaster Al-Jazeera, has been held without trial since June 2002 at the US military base at Guantanamo, and Associated Press photographer Bilal Hussein has been held by US authorities in Iraq since April this year.
France (35th) slipped five places during the past year, to make a loss of 24 places in five years. The increase in searches of media offices and journalists’ homes is very worrying for media organisations and trade unions. Autumn 2005 was an especially bad time for French journalists, several of whom were physically attacked or threatened during a trade union dispute involving privatisation of the Corsican firm SNCM and during violent demonstrations in French city suburbs in November.
Rising nationalism and the system of exclusive press clubs (kishas) threatened democratic gains in Japan, which fell 14 places to 51st. The newspaper Nihon Keizai was firebombed and several journalists phsyically attacked by far-right activists (uyoku).
Fallout from the row over the "Mohammed cartoons”
Denmark (19th) dropped from joint first place because of serious threats against the authors of the Mohammed cartoons published there in autumn 2005. For the first time in recent years in a country that is very observant of civil liberties, journalists had to have police protection due to threats against them because of their work.
Yemen (149th) slipped four places, mainly because of the arrest of several journalists and closure of newspapers that reprinted the cartoons. Journalists were harassed for the same reason in Algeria (126th), Jordan (109th), Indonesia (103rd) and India (105th).
But except for Yemen and Saudi Arabia (161st), all the Arab peninsula countries considerably improved their rank. Kuwait (73rd) kept its place at the top of the group, just ahead of the United Arab Emirates (77th) and Qatar (80th).
Newcomers to the top ranks
Two countries moved into the Index’s top 20 for the first time. Bolivia (16th) was best-placed among less-developed countries and during the year its journalists enjoyed the same level of freedom as colleagues in Canada or Austria. Bosnia-Herzegovina (19th) continued its gradual rise up the Index since the end of the war in ex-Yugoslavia and is now placed above its European Union member-state neighbours Greece (32nd) and Italy (40th).
Ghana (34th) rose 32 places to become fourth in Africa behind the continent’s three traditional leaders - Benin (23rd), Namibia (26th) and Mauritius (32nd). Economic conditions are still difficult for the Ghanaian media but it is no longer threatened by the authorities.
Panama (39th) is enjoying political peace which has helped the growth of a free and vigorous media and the country moved up 27 places over the year.
War, the destroyer of press freedom
Lebanon has fallen from 56th to 107th place in five years, as the country’s media continues to suffer from the region’s poisonous political atmosphere, with a series of bomb attacks in 2005 and Israeli military attacks this year. The Lebanese media - some of the freest and most experienced in the Arab world - desperately need peace and guarantees of security. The inability of the Palestinian Authority (134th) to maintain stability in its territories and the behaviour of Israel (135th) outside its borders seriously threaten freedom of expression in the Middle East.
Things are much the same in Sri Lanka, which ranked 51st in 2002, when there was peace, but has now sunk to 141st because fighting between government and rebel forces has resumed in earnest. Dozens of Tamil journalists have been physically attacked after being accused by one side or the other of being biased against them.
Press freedom in Nepal (159th) has shifted according to the state of the fighting that has disrupted the country for several years. The “democatic revolution” and the revolt against the monarchy in April this year led immediately to more basic freedoms and the country should gain a lot of ground in next year’s Index.
Welcome changes of regime
Changes of ruler are sometimes good for press freeedom, as in the case of Haiti, which has risen from 125th to 87th place in two years after the flight into exile of President Jean-Bertrand Aristide in early 2004. Several murders of journalists remain unpunished but violence against the media has abated.
Togo (66th) has risen 29 places since the death of President Gnassingbe Eyadema in February 2005, the accession to power of his son and internationally-backed efforts to make peace with the opposition.
A coup in Mauritania in August 2005 ended the heavy censorship of the local media and the country has risen to 77th position after being 138th in 2004, one of the biggest improvements in the Index.
Reporters Without Borders compiled the Index by asking the 14 freedom of expression organisations that are its partners worldwide, its network of 130 correspondents, as well as journalists, researchers, jurists and human rights activists, to answer 50 questions about press freedom in their countries. The Index covers 168 nations. Others were not included for lack of data about them.
Source: Reporters without Borders
[url=http://www.rsf.org/rubrique.php3?id_rubrique=639]
maryjane now and than, and this hasn't stopped them from becoming succesfull docters, lawyers, or diplomats.
It would be ridicilous if I couldn't speak freely about smoking weed on a site hosted on a server in the VS.
Most Americans pride themselves on their country being a beacon of liberty and democracy and an example for
other country's and cultures all over the world. Maybe your freedom isn't so great as you would like it to be. Maybe your government isn't so democratic afterall. Maybe thats why most country's dont like the Bush "either your with us, or you're against us" attitude. Here are some facts for you:
North Korea, Turkmenistan, Eritrea the worst violators of press freedom
France, the United States and Japan slip further Mauritania and Haiti gain much ground
New countries have moved ahead of some Western democracies in the fifth annual Reporters Without Borders Worldwide Press Freedom Index, issued today, while the most repressive countries are still the same ones.
“Unfortunately nothing has changed in the countries that are the worst predators of press freedom,” the organisation said, “and journalists in North Korea, Eritrea, Turkmenistan, Cuba, Burma and China are still risking their life or imprisonment for trying to keep us informed. These situations are extremely serious and it is urgent that leaders of these countries accept criticism and stop routinely cracking down on the media so harshly.
"Each year new countries in less-developed parts of the world move up the Index to positions above some European countries or the United States. This is good news and shows once again that, even though very poor, countries can be very observant of freedom of expression. Meanwhile the steady erosion of press freedom in the United States, France and Japan is extremely alarming,” Reporters Without Borders said.
The three worst violators of free expression - North Korea, bottom of the Index at 168th place, Turkmenistan (167th) and Eritrea (166th) - have clamped down further. The torture death of Turkmenistan journalist Ogulsapar Muradova shows that the country’s leader, “President-for-Life” Separmurad Nyazov, is willing to use extreme violence against those who dare to criticise him. Reporters Without Borders is also extremely concerned about a number of Eritrean journalists who have been imprisoned in secret for more than five years. The all-powerful North Korean leader, Kim Jong-il, also continues to totally control the media.
Northern European countries once again come top of the Index, with no recorded censorship, threats, intimidation or physical reprisals in Finland, Ireland, Iceland and the Netherlands, which all share first place.
Deterioration in the United States and Japan, with France also slipping
The United States (53rd) has fallen nine places since last year, after being in 17th position in the first year of the Index, in 2002. Relations between the media and the Bush administration sharply deteriorated after the president used the pretext of “national security” to regard as suspicious any journalist who questioned his “war on terrorism.” The zeal of federal courts which, unlike those in 33 US states, refuse to recognise the media’s right not to reveal its sources, even threatens journalists whose investigations have no connection at all with terrorism.
Freelance journalist and blogger Josh Wolf was imprisoned when he refused to hand over his video archives. Sudanese cameraman Sami al-Haj, who works for the pan-Arab broadcaster Al-Jazeera, has been held without trial since June 2002 at the US military base at Guantanamo, and Associated Press photographer Bilal Hussein has been held by US authorities in Iraq since April this year.
France (35th) slipped five places during the past year, to make a loss of 24 places in five years. The increase in searches of media offices and journalists’ homes is very worrying for media organisations and trade unions. Autumn 2005 was an especially bad time for French journalists, several of whom were physically attacked or threatened during a trade union dispute involving privatisation of the Corsican firm SNCM and during violent demonstrations in French city suburbs in November.
Rising nationalism and the system of exclusive press clubs (kishas) threatened democratic gains in Japan, which fell 14 places to 51st. The newspaper Nihon Keizai was firebombed and several journalists phsyically attacked by far-right activists (uyoku).
Fallout from the row over the "Mohammed cartoons”
Denmark (19th) dropped from joint first place because of serious threats against the authors of the Mohammed cartoons published there in autumn 2005. For the first time in recent years in a country that is very observant of civil liberties, journalists had to have police protection due to threats against them because of their work.
Yemen (149th) slipped four places, mainly because of the arrest of several journalists and closure of newspapers that reprinted the cartoons. Journalists were harassed for the same reason in Algeria (126th), Jordan (109th), Indonesia (103rd) and India (105th).
But except for Yemen and Saudi Arabia (161st), all the Arab peninsula countries considerably improved their rank. Kuwait (73rd) kept its place at the top of the group, just ahead of the United Arab Emirates (77th) and Qatar (80th).
Newcomers to the top ranks
Two countries moved into the Index’s top 20 for the first time. Bolivia (16th) was best-placed among less-developed countries and during the year its journalists enjoyed the same level of freedom as colleagues in Canada or Austria. Bosnia-Herzegovina (19th) continued its gradual rise up the Index since the end of the war in ex-Yugoslavia and is now placed above its European Union member-state neighbours Greece (32nd) and Italy (40th).
Ghana (34th) rose 32 places to become fourth in Africa behind the continent’s three traditional leaders - Benin (23rd), Namibia (26th) and Mauritius (32nd). Economic conditions are still difficult for the Ghanaian media but it is no longer threatened by the authorities.
Panama (39th) is enjoying political peace which has helped the growth of a free and vigorous media and the country moved up 27 places over the year.
War, the destroyer of press freedom
Lebanon has fallen from 56th to 107th place in five years, as the country’s media continues to suffer from the region’s poisonous political atmosphere, with a series of bomb attacks in 2005 and Israeli military attacks this year. The Lebanese media - some of the freest and most experienced in the Arab world - desperately need peace and guarantees of security. The inability of the Palestinian Authority (134th) to maintain stability in its territories and the behaviour of Israel (135th) outside its borders seriously threaten freedom of expression in the Middle East.
Things are much the same in Sri Lanka, which ranked 51st in 2002, when there was peace, but has now sunk to 141st because fighting between government and rebel forces has resumed in earnest. Dozens of Tamil journalists have been physically attacked after being accused by one side or the other of being biased against them.
Press freedom in Nepal (159th) has shifted according to the state of the fighting that has disrupted the country for several years. The “democatic revolution” and the revolt against the monarchy in April this year led immediately to more basic freedoms and the country should gain a lot of ground in next year’s Index.
Welcome changes of regime
Changes of ruler are sometimes good for press freeedom, as in the case of Haiti, which has risen from 125th to 87th place in two years after the flight into exile of President Jean-Bertrand Aristide in early 2004. Several murders of journalists remain unpunished but violence against the media has abated.
Togo (66th) has risen 29 places since the death of President Gnassingbe Eyadema in February 2005, the accession to power of his son and internationally-backed efforts to make peace with the opposition.
A coup in Mauritania in August 2005 ended the heavy censorship of the local media and the country has risen to 77th position after being 138th in 2004, one of the biggest improvements in the Index.
Reporters Without Borders compiled the Index by asking the 14 freedom of expression organisations that are its partners worldwide, its network of 130 correspondents, as well as journalists, researchers, jurists and human rights activists, to answer 50 questions about press freedom in their countries. The Index covers 168 nations. Others were not included for lack of data about them.
Source: Reporters without Borders
[url=http://www.rsf.org/rubrique.php3?id_rubrique=639]
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FingerBang
- Posts: 526
- Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:00 am
- Location: Winnipeg
AMENPook wrote:QUOTE (Pook @ Oct 26 2006, 08:52 AM) If the owner of the site says it's not welcome here, then it's not welcome here, period.
I don't care if you live on the Moon in your one man freedom-dome.
Jesus bloody christ people, the OWNERS OF THE SITE/SERVERS dont want something, its THEIRS to run as they want.
THIS ISNT A DEMOCRACY, ITS A DICTATORSHIP ( well sort of), BV, THAL, TIGER, POOK can do whatever they hell they want.
If you dont like it, take your piloting skill, cause more'n likely thats all you contributed to this game, and go make your own friggen servers and you can let the asshats do whatever they hell they want, and when some stupid fat lazy american parent hears the word 'pot' coming from YOUR server, then YOU can pay the lawyers bills and the settlement.
You have a HUGELY litigeous society and its your own doing.
So which one of you pansy ass americans wants to sue me because i hurt your stupid pussy feelings.
Here in Canada, we grow ADULTS.
Bravo for the bans and i hope that you guys keep your spines on this. As been mentioned TIMELESS times...(??) the banned players have been GENERALLY asshats for sometime now.
BOOHOOO XT get over it, they knew they were wrong, you knew they were wrong.
Do you know how tired i was of hearing, " oh its just xxxxxx, hes like that, he will boot you for no reason, and he CAN do it because hes the commander"
HOLY @#(!!! HE CAN DO IT BECAUSE HES THE COMMANDER???? WELL GUESS WHAT?? THE SUPREME COMMANDER JSUT BOOTED SOME ASSHATS FOR BEING PERPETUAL ASSHATS.
so shut the hell up about this and leave the admins alone
ASGS logs wrote:Harold3(7): FINGERBANG GET OUT FROM BEHIND THAT WORMHOLE AND FIGHT LIKE A MAN YOU @&%#! CHICKEN
AMEN!!!FingerBang wrote:QUOTE (FingerBang @ Oct 26 2006, 10:57 AM) AMEN
Jesus bloody christ people, the OWNERS OF THE SITE/SERVERS dont want something, its THEIRS to run as they want.
THIS ISNT A DEMOCRACY, ITS A DICTATORSHIP ( well sort of), BV, THAL, TIGER, POOK can do whatever they hell they want.
If you dont like it, take your piloting skill, cause more'n likely thats all you contributed to this game, and go make your own friggen servers and you can let the asshats do whatever they hell they want, and when some stupid fat lazy american parent hears the word 'pot' coming from YOUR server, then YOU can pay the lawyers bills and the settlement.
You have a HUGELY litigeous society and its your own doing.
So which one of you pansy ass americans wants to sue me because i hurt your stupid pussy feelings.
Here in Canada, we grow ADULTS.
Bravo for the bans and i hope that you guys keep your spines on this. As been mentioned TIMELESS times...(??) the banned players have been GENERALLY asshats for sometime now.
BOOHOOO XT get over it, they knew they were wrong, you knew they were wrong.
Do you know how tired i was of hearing, " oh its just xxxxxx, hes like that, he will boot you for no reason, and he CAN do it because hes the commander"
HOLY @#(!!! HE CAN DO IT BECAUSE HES THE COMMANDER???? WELL GUESS WHAT?? THE SUPREME COMMANDER JSUT BOOTED SOME ASSHATS FOR BEING PERPETUAL ASSHATS.
so shut the hell up about this and leave the admins alone
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Hey that article was worthy of reading even though it has nothing to do with topic at hand.
Interesting fact, my own country Croatia is tied with US of A in freedom of press... I don't know if I should laugh or cry. /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> /doh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":doh:" border="0" alt="doh.gif" />
53 Botswana 13,00
- Croatia 13,00
- Tonga 13,00
- United States of America 13,00
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Interesting fact, my own country Croatia is tied with US of A in freedom of press... I don't know if I should laugh or cry. /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> /doh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":doh:" border="0" alt="doh.gif" />
53 Botswana 13,00
- Croatia 13,00
- Tonga 13,00
- United States of America 13,00
/mrgreen.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="mrgreen.gif" />
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takingarms1
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That article is a crock of @#(!... yeah you know the US where we jail protesters and political dissidents all the time... please.
I'm willing to bet that those so called reporters and photographers held at guantanomo were found with "enemy combatants" on the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan.
QUOTE Relations between the media and the Bush administration sharply deteriorated after the president used the pretext of “national security” to regard as suspicious any journalist who questioned his “war on terrorism.”[/quote]Relations between the bush administration and the media? What has that got to do with freedom of the press? What, if a government official doesn't like what the press is saying about him that somehow translates into lesser freedoms? The worst part of this statement is the implication that bush is considering mass arrests or applying threats or pressure to journalists, which is completely false. If anything, Bush fears and respects the press for how they could beat him up and there is really nothing he can do about it. For craps sake, lately they criticize bush in the press every damn day.
QUOTE The zeal of federal courts which, unlike those in 33 US states, refuse to recognise the media’s right not to reveal its sources, even threatens journalists whose investigations have no connection at all with terrorism.[/quote]
Since when does protecting a source have anything to do with freedom of the press? Last time I checked freedom of the press meant freedom to print what you want. Freedom to print what you want does not, in my mind, include any right to conceal where you got your information from. When did we ever recognize a freedom not to reveal a source?
Edit: crap, i think i've been trolled...
I'm willing to bet that those so called reporters and photographers held at guantanomo were found with "enemy combatants" on the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan.
QUOTE Relations between the media and the Bush administration sharply deteriorated after the president used the pretext of “national security” to regard as suspicious any journalist who questioned his “war on terrorism.”[/quote]Relations between the bush administration and the media? What has that got to do with freedom of the press? What, if a government official doesn't like what the press is saying about him that somehow translates into lesser freedoms? The worst part of this statement is the implication that bush is considering mass arrests or applying threats or pressure to journalists, which is completely false. If anything, Bush fears and respects the press for how they could beat him up and there is really nothing he can do about it. For craps sake, lately they criticize bush in the press every damn day.
QUOTE The zeal of federal courts which, unlike those in 33 US states, refuse to recognise the media’s right not to reveal its sources, even threatens journalists whose investigations have no connection at all with terrorism.[/quote]
Since when does protecting a source have anything to do with freedom of the press? Last time I checked freedom of the press meant freedom to print what you want. Freedom to print what you want does not, in my mind, include any right to conceal where you got your information from. When did we ever recognize a freedom not to reveal a source?
Edit: crap, i think i've been trolled...
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Please, escuse me if I laugh a bit. Bush's relation with the media? There is NONE. They scream at him daily and keep putting out more bad stuff about him. And when there was an investigation on a journalist, somehow I dont think releasing classified information is practicing the rights of free speech. Especially when the source is releasing classified information? Seriously.
Just like, "Ooh, this is the new military project in development. I'm going to put this on the media and let the world see." I dont think so. There are limits to free speech, and they start when they infringe on other people rights.
Just like, "Ooh, this is the new military project in development. I'm going to put this on the media and let the world see." I dont think so. There are limits to free speech, and they start when they infringe on other people rights.
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