ASGS Questions

RexWhitten · Post by **RexWhitten** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:07 pm

Forgive the intrusion, great work on keeping Allegiance alive!

I am a new developer to Allegiance. I have a questions to the development community about ASGS. I understand that this is closed source for good reason, but if I wanted to setup a completly seperate instance of this, is this possible? If I have my own server hardware, and want to utilize my own version of the client, my own mod, can this be done while still staying with ouit violating the ASGS closed source situation?

Forgive me if I havent read enough,

Thank you.

~Rex

Imago · Post by **Imago** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:25 pm

Rex Whitten wrote:QUOTE (Rex Whitten @ Jul 18 2009, 06:07 PM) Forgive the intrusion, great work on keeping Allegiance alive!

I am a new developer to Allegiance. I have a questions to the development community about ASGS. I understand that this is closed source for good reason, but if I wanted to setup a completly seperate instance of this, is this possible? If I have my own server hardware, and want to utilize my own version of the client, my own mod, can this be done while still staying with ouit violating the ASGS closed source situation?

Forgive me if I havent read enough,

Thank you.

~Rex

Yes. You simply don't run ASGS on your client and block asgs.alleg.net from your server and/or lobby.

badpazzword · Post by **badpazzword** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:26 pm

Rex Whitten wrote:QUOTE (Rex Whitten @ Jul 19 2009, 01:07 AM) If I wanted to setup a completly seperate instance of this, is this possible? If I have my own server hardware, and want to utilize my own version of the client, my own mod, can this be done while still staying with ouit violating the ASGS closed source situation?

I think you need to check the ToS for Allegiance. Getting an alternative lobby with alternative servers up for alternative clients does/may/might go against the FreeAllegiance ToS, which would disallow you from using the current code base for such a purpose. Nothing but the MS EULA stops you from going back to stone age and download MS 1.25 source from Microsoft itself.

Anyway, I think the cause for this thraed is a deep misconception about ASGS, rather than an attempt at building alternatives to ASGS.

RexWhitten · Post by **RexWhitten** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:37 pm

Badp wrote:QUOTE (Badp @ Jul 18 2009, 07:26 PM) Anyway, I think the cause for this thraed is a deep misconception about ASGS, rather than an attempt at building alternatives to ASGS.

Correct, I dont suggest a re-building of it, merely a different instance of it, running on a different server. But if this goes against a ToS for FAZ, i might just have to use the MS code base, and code some replacement.

TY

Imago · Post by **Imago** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:05 am

when you said "this" i figured you meant Allegiance.

Post by **TheBored** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:44 am

What BadP says is the case. In order to run your own "instance" of Allegiance, ASGS is not needed. You can build your own client & server and host them anywhere you'd like. ASGS is merely our tool for authenticating players within the community. You won't be able to get your hands on ASGS... we don't have the source and the author is unreachable

TB

RexWhitten · Post by **RexWhitten** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:13 am

Understood.

Thank you all for your help.

madpeople · Post by **madpeople** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:55 pm

That said, If you are interested in building a security system, we are interested in doing a new one, but at the moment development efforts are rather low
http://www.freeallegiance.org/forums/index.php?showforum=142

Dogbones · Post by **Dogbones** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 5:05 pm

Just to 'clarify' (I hope) the modifications/improvements made to the allegiance code base by this community are public, you can find info on how to get to it and build it in the wiki section.

You can run your own lobby, server, and client.

ASGS is a separate executable (and database) that provides a level of hacking/cheating protection and restricted access to the lobby.

Dog