2 PC behind router?

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RRocketShip
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Post by RRocketShip »

Problem Encountered at Step #: (read the "What Should Happen" for this step#)
Which Program (ASGS/Allegiance): Allegiance
What Error Message:
Pings not coming back
DPlay session terminated
Comments (What you tried, description, etc):

My problem sounds exactly like the issue that Vozey had submitted May 7, 2008.

Does anyone run 2+ machines from behind a router sucessfully? I have a suspicion that the problem may be the Router. Vozey had the same Brand, Linksys. Linksys has a few posts about the same type issue with XBox in a similar configuration.

If anyone is successful with 2 machines, please let me know what kind of router you use. I may have to go buy one.

More Info.....
I have 2 machines on a LAN behind a switch/gateway/router.
1. Both machines work fine by themselves.
2. When we play together at the same time, after 5 minutes or less, the 2 errors happen.

Have tried these:
1. All firewall and antivirus and anti-spyware software is turned off.
2. uPNP was changed to a different state. Currently disabled. Enabling makes it worse.
3. All packages installed and updated as recommended.
4. Have NOT tried port forwarding or triggering. Not that familiar with it. Wiki says its not necessary now....

Thanks for any help.

RR

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Machine New-----
Windows Version (and Service Packs): Vista Home Premium, SP1
Processor Speed: AMD Athlon 64 Dual Core 4800+ 2.5GHz
RAM: 3.0 GB
Video Card (Make and Model#): NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430, 128 MB RAM (integrated)
Sound Card (Make and Model#): Realtek (integrated)
Connection Type (Dialup, Cable, DSL, other): Cable
Modem (Make and Model#): NVIDIA nForce 10/100 Ethernet (integrated)
Router (Make and Model#): Linksys BEFW 11S4 wired
Internet Service Provider(company name): Wide Open West
Location(State/Province/Locality, and Country): Illinois, USA
Installed Mods:

Make and Version of firewall: Windows (disabled)
Make and version of anti-virus: Windows (disabled)

Machine Previous------
Windows Version (and Service Packs): XP Home SP2
Processor Speed: Athlon 64 2800+ 1.8GHz
RAM: 768 MB
Video Card (Make and Model#): ATI Radeon X1050
Sound Card (Make and Model#): Realtek AC'97
Connection Type (Dialup, Cable, DSL, other): Cable
Modem (Make and Model#): Via Rhine II
Router (Make and Model#): Linksys BEFW 11S4 wired
Internet Service Provider(company name): Wide Open West
Location(State/Province/Locality, and Country): Illinois, USA
Installed Mods:

Make and Version of firewall: McAfee (disabled)
Make and version of anti-virus: McAfee (disabled)

Confirm that you have the following installed:

* .Net 1.1 [ Y ]
* Service Pack 1 for .Net 1.1 [ Y ]
* Hotfix for .Net 1.1 [ Y ]



Drive Allegiance is installed on: C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Allegiance

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FreeBeer
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Post by FreeBeer »

My preliminary guess is that your accounts are linked. Is there any chance that you logged in using your account on the other machine, or visa versa? If the accounts are linked, our security system sees the two accounts as one, and thus will disconnect the first one when the second one logs in. This is what appears to be the case when I read your write-up.

If so, we'll have to bump it up to an admin to unlink the accounts and you must never link them again. If this has happened, we'll need to know the player names (and hiders, if any) for each machine so the admin can unlink them properly.
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RRocketShip
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Post by RRocketShip »

Thanks Free, but I don't think this is the case. Mine is a new machine, never been logged in on by the other account.

I read all the warnings and was determined not to make that mistake.

It wasn't Vozey's problem either. see other posts from May '08 that I referred to...
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Post by ogorass »

Max connection count from one IP is 5. That means, that you can connect from five different machines from behind a router (higher numbers require exceptions granted by the admins on special terms).
Now, it doesn't matter if you've linked the accounts on the new computer, if they've been already linked on the old one. In that case, just by logging in using any of the linked accounts on the new rig, you've added it to the link.
As it really seems to be the most possible answer to what's going on, please post the callsigns in question and we'll ask The Prowler That Eats™ to run a query for them. In the worst case scenarion we'll rule the possibility out ;)
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Post by Grimmwolf_GB »

It does not sound like a linked account, because ASGS simply log out the other account. It does not produce ping or dplay errors. For me it sounds like the router messing it up.
Can you borrow one from a friend to test if it works?
RRocketShip
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Post by RRocketShip »

Borrow a router. Thanks Grim, that is something I did not think of... doh! Maybe the IT guy at work..........

If anyone a good suggestion for brand, it would be appreciated.

Again, if anyone has already run 2 behind a router, please let me know what type you used.

It actually cannot be linked accounts, because we run both at the same time for 5 to 10 minutes before it errors. But if someone wants to check it out anyway, here we are,

RRocketship
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Thanks in advance.

RR
Adam4
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Post by Adam4 »

Confirmed, no linkage there.
Psychosis
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Post by Psychosis »

Try changing your router out, if you are looking for a better one, answer the following questions:
1) do you own any APPLE computers/ wireless products
2) do you torrent
3) how much space are you looking to cover
4) do you want to homebrew your router?
RRocketShip
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Post by RRocketShip »

1. No Apple computers or Apple wireless.
2. No plans to torrent. Unless its doing it behind my back.
3. With wireless, eventually, 50-60 feet radius or so.
4. Homebrew? Seems like it would take awhile, and unless you had a shortcut, that will take away from my Allegiance Flying time.. ;-)

Any idea, Psychosis?

Thanks all, RR
Pos_21
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Post by Pos_21 »

Can both of the machines connect on their own?

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