Guns & YP log
Note What follows is the ICQ log transcript of the verbal battle between Your_Persona and Guns22 where, over the course of three hours, Guns makes his intentions of destroying Allegiance clear. This happened on May 31st, 2001. Times are in MST (or MDT).
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GUNS: (6:39 PM) yo
Your_Persona: (6:41 PM) what?
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GUNS: (8:24 PM) hi
GUNS: (9:01 PM) hope you aint to pissed at me
Your_Persona: (9:01 PM) why should i not be pissed at you?
GUNS: (9:02 PM) i dunno..... i did start a revolt and have backers and we aiming to knock you out.... i dunno lol i am sry man but i have to do it
Your_Persona: (9:03 PM) thats why im pissed at you guns, ive spend hundreds of hours trying to fix this problem, ive spent at least 6 hrs just trying to fix your problem and you have the nerve to turn around and stab me in the back like this, when have i ever been anything but nice to you.
GUNS: (9:03 PM) oh by the way you know how my oem and MA combined well lmao i get the galvs graphics heh oh and i do apologize to you but everypone hated me anyway
GUNS: (9:04 PM) i aint tryingto hurt you i am just trying to hurt alleg and i am sry that effects you
Your_Persona: (9:05 PM) alleg hurt you so you have to hurt alleg which hurts all the players? wtf man comon
GUNS: (9:06 PM) i am sick of it lol everyone hates me even before i cg
heh for some reason i lost all respect and when some 14 i dont know would not paly for me cus i am a 9 that pissed me off so fuckign much you know that? i stuck with this game for 15 months to get kicked around
GUNS: (9:07 PM) i one of the eldest peopel left
GUNS: (9:07 PM) and still noone listens to me or palys for me or respects me in july i had mad respect
Your_Persona: (9:07 PM) guns you need to not start crashing
Your_Persona: (9:08 PM) guns look at me
Your_Persona: (9:08 PM) who has taken the most shit in this game?
GUNS: (9:08 PM) yesterday i was stacked against noone would paly for me newbie 9 and attmepted cged 4 times that some fucks would no stop running there mouth so i fliped
Your_Persona: (9:08 PM) <-- has
Your_Persona: (9:08 PM) why?
GUNS: (9:08 PM) bull you dont take shit everyone loves you well just about everyone
Your_Persona: (9:08 PM) cause i get blamed for it all
GUNS: (9:08 PM) so they still respect you
Your_Persona: (9:09 PM) yes they seem to like me now
Your_Persona: (9:09 PM) but 4 months ago
Your_Persona: (9:09 PM) you want me to dig up those threds?
Your_Persona: (9:09 PM) when all the @alleg were on my as
Your_Persona: (9:09 PM) everyone was mad at me
GUNS: (9:09 PM) i used to help newbies out, people would play for me now before i cged noone even listened to me cus i had a fuckign 9
GUNS: (9:09 PM) xo you change it
Your_Persona: (9:09 PM) make a new name
GUNS: (9:09 PM) you want me to get a 14 in 2 weeks? lmao
Your_Persona: (9:09 PM) exactally guns
Your_Persona: (9:10 PM) you need to change it
Your_Persona: (9:10 PM) not flip out
Your_Persona: (9:10 PM) what would of happend if i had flipped out?
Your_Persona: (9:10 PM) w/ yp1.0
GUNS: (9:10 PM) i aint making a new name cus my 9 got disrespect i could not stand being pushed around as a newibe
Your_Persona: (9:10 PM) back then when everyone got mad at me?
GUNS: (9:10 PM) so you had a way to fix it
Your_Persona: (9:10 PM) and you dont?
GUNS: (9:10 PM) no..
GUNS: (9:11 PM) i cant even get in games under 4 diff names lol i get booted
Your_Persona: (9:11 PM) how do you not?
GUNS: (9:11 PM) only 4 people will even say nice shit to me desp..... spidey devin and snake
Your_Persona: (9:11 PM) well maby you shuld make a public appoligy
Your_Persona: (9:11 PM) and such
GUNS: (9:11 PM) no way in hell i had my reason and i am sticking to them
Your_Persona: (9:11 PM) if people can play w/ black now
Your_Persona: (9:11 PM) if he could turn his around
GUNS: (9:11 PM) black still cgs people lmao
Your_Persona: (9:11 PM) why the hell cant you
Your_Persona: (9:11 PM) i know
GUNS: (9:12 PM) lol a few people still boot him on site
Your_Persona: (9:12 PM) but he turnd everyones oppinion about him around
Your_Persona: (9:12 PM) so why cant you guns?
GUNS: (9:12 PM) and i was in a game today i had chilled out i wasnt cging anyone and nak yells boot him!
so they booted me i came baclk cged 80%
GUNS: (9:12 PM) cus i am stikcing by my principles
Your_Persona: (9:12 PM) well guns if you gonna be like that.
Your_Persona: (9:13 PM) your gonna get fucked really hard
Your_Persona: (9:13 PM) in the ass
Your_Persona: (9:13 PM) for a long time
Your_Persona: (9:13 PM) and its gonna hurt
GUNS: (9:13 PM) i get pushed around with a 9 ? why? i never used to be in july i used to be a verey popular player.... when i came back everyone ws liek guns we missed you .... now everyone hates me for omeone reason
Your_Persona: (9:13 PM) and your gonna cry
GUNS: (9:13 PM) lol no way
GUNS: (9:13 PM) i got allies we are working dilegntly
Your_Persona: (9:14 PM) who?
Your_Persona: (9:14 PM) black?
GUNS: (9:14 PM) found way around yer patch 100% patch
GUNS: (9:14 PM) no....
GUNS: (9:14 PM) i aint aloud saying who
Your_Persona: (9:14 PM) lol
GUNS: (9:14 PM) there are a total of 3 of us
Your_Persona: (9:14 PM) thats sad guns
GUNS: (9:14 PM) our new cg doesnt even use quick chats
Your_Persona: (9:15 PM) ya right
GUNS: (9:15 PM) sends th server soem fucked up shit send that back out and cgs everyone
GUNS: (9:15 PM) well just about everoyone
GUNS: (9:15 PM) if you in base you dont
GUNS: (9:16 PM) i relized in the last few days noone likes me so i decided to cg em all
Your_Persona: (9:16 PM) what file are you modifying then?
GUNS: (9:16 PM) omg you know what else?
GUNS: (9:16 PM) cant tell you
GUNS: (9:16 PM) someone framed me
Your_Persona: (9:16 PM) you dont know lol
GUNS: (9:16 PM) and got me kciked from z
GUNS: (9:16 PM) they said i cged em and made a screen shot and me cg em
GUNS: (9:16 PM) bull fuckign shit
GUNS: (9:17 PM) so i am bringing down the z website
Your_Persona: (9:17 PM) i have a screen shot of you crashing people
GUNS: (9:17 PM) cus vegeta (krim) belived them iver me
GUNS: (9:17 PM) i didnty start cging till yesterday
GUNS: (9:17 PM) now i got a few muffins who still like me a few muffins and snake that it
Your_Persona: (9:17 PM) so what the hell is your game plan then? just fuck up alleg till it dies, then go do something else?
GUNS: (9:18 PM) ya by then d2 expansion will be out
Your_Persona: (9:18 PM) thats sic and wrong guns
GUNS: (9:18 PM) hey the last month i have turned into a bitch
GUNS: (9:19 PM) i blame that part on the fact i hate what alleg has become so i wanna kill it
and the fact that everyone for some reason is being a dick head to me
Your_Persona: (9:20 PM) thats wack man
GUNS: (9:20 PM) everyone is being dick head i guess i will to
GUNS: (9:21 PM) and i hope everyone including solap has cg protection at his game :)
Your_Persona: (9:21 PM) OMG your NOT gonna do that
Your_Persona: (9:25 PM) your not are you?
GUNS: (9:26 PM) yes i am
GUNS: (9:26 PM) better warn solap
Your_Persona: (9:26 PM) why?
GUNS: (9:26 PM) well here is a good example i join game jsut now
GUNS: (9:26 PM) go i been a big ass latly dont worry i wont cg
GUNS: (9:27 PM) so someone says ban him and my old good freinds we go back to july krim and piccolo say fuck you
GUNS: (9:27 PM) so cg em
GUNS: (9:27 PM) a good 8 drop
GUNS: (9:27 PM) rest are smart
GUNS: (9:27 PM) they all come back and i warn em not to be mean i was being nice
GUNS: (9:27 PM) and fatty st is sticking up for me
GUNS: (9:28 PM) and they say fuck you guns
GUNS: (9:28 PM) i cg em again
Your_Persona: (9:28 PM) so your hurting people that didnt even say anything to you
GUNS: (9:30 PM) yee=haw 9 more just cged.... omg i wish there was no patch
GUNS: (9:30 PM) i call it civilian losses
Your_Persona: (9:32 PM) why dont you tell me what the file is your modifying?
GUNS: (9:32 PM) jsut knocked 7more off
GUNS: (9:32 PM) do me a favor and i will stop cging..... innocent people
Your_Persona: (9:32 PM) including not doing the solap game?
GUNS: (9:34 PM) yee-haw jsut brought a whole game down to liek 2 form 20
GUNS: (9:34 PM) yes
Your_Persona: (9:34 PM) what is it you want me to do?
GUNS: (9:34 PM) i cant get it to fuckignm work but i want the cg wav as a normal quick chat so i can scare people
Your_Persona: (9:35 PM) so you want to be able to play the attempted crash guard wav w/o crashing people?
GUNS: (9:36 PM) yep
GUNS: (9:36 PM) so they all hear it i been trying and dont wanna work for me
Your_Persona: (9:36 PM) what are you using to crash people right now? is it a normal quickchat?
GUNS: (9:38 PM) ya i hit ~ q l lol
Your_Persona: (9:39 PM) ok, i'll tell you how if you tell me a little bit about your new method of crashing people
GUNS: (9:39 PM) i cant he wont let me
Your_Persona: (9:40 PM) who wont
GUNS: (9:40 PM) just like tp wanted my quickchat to cg people
GUNS: (9:40 PM) i said no cus i thought he was sitll working for you guys
GUNS: (9:40 PM) i cant tell you man someone you wont expect is al i will say
Your_Persona: (9:40 PM) is it someone i know?
Your_Persona: (9:42 PM) i wanna talk to him
Your_Persona: (9:42 PM) have him make a fake zone name
Your_Persona: (9:42 PM) and meet me in the free zone
GUNS: (9:42 PM) why?
GUNS: (9:42 PM) you need to do so you can fix
Your_Persona: (9:42 PM) i want to talk to him
GUNS: (9:43 PM) so you can fix it...
GUNS: (9:43 PM) before we get it working before
Your_Persona: (9:43 PM) fix what?
Your_Persona: (9:43 PM) i dont even know what your doing
GUNS: (9:43 PM) remember i intial threats to MA i had a way to bring whole server down
Your_Persona: (9:43 PM) i want to know his motive
GUNS: (9:43 PM) but it locks my comp cus my proc cant hablde the stree lmao pos celeron
GUNS: (9:44 PM) he thinks you making it worse
GUNS: (9:44 PM) balanca changes and shit
GUNS: (9:44 PM) and auto update
Your_Persona: (9:44 PM) he thinks im making alleg worse? and he is crashing the game?
GUNS: (9:44 PM) he wants it the way alleg orgianlly was
Your_Persona: (9:44 PM) back in beta?
GUNS: (9:44 PM) no first retail patch
Your_Persona: (9:45 PM) why does he like that better?
GUNS: (9:45 PM) dude think back it was... no rix.... all sf had med ..... and only problem to me is command veiw was gay and so was mini map
Your_Persona: (9:46 PM) so he just wants me to take out rix, and give all sf's med shields?
GUNS: (9:48 PM) send yer last msg over
Your_Persona: (9:49 PM) so he just wants me to take out rix, and give all sf's med shields?
GUNS: (9:50 PM) HEH no i can do that he want you to just leave alleg alone or have some people say what is ok and what isnt
Your_Persona: (9:50 PM) did you get that message?
GUNS: (9:50 PM) i jsut got it
Your_Persona: (9:51 PM) we are going to have people saying whats ok, and what isnt.
GUNS: (9:54 PM) bottom line peopel on alleg treat my liek dicks anymore for no reason so i am going to ruin there fun
GUNS: (9:54 PM) i wanted alleg saved so much but peopel are pricks and doesnt deserve to be saved with the curetn players
Your_Persona: (9:55 PM) guns your turning into what you hated
GUNS: (9:55 PM) yes i am
Your_Persona: (9:55 PM) your making the problem worse not better
GUNS: (9:55 PM) i know
Your_Persona: (9:56 PM) why?
GUNS: (9:56 PM) it cant get better
Your_Persona: (9:56 PM) yes it can
GUNS: (9:56 PM) i am sick of being treated bad for no reason
Your_Persona: (9:56 PM) it can get alot better
Your_Persona: (9:56 PM) guns your treated bad cause of your attitude
GUNS: (9:56 PM) what attitude?
GUNS: (9:56 PM) i starten being a prick in the last 3 weeks
Your_Persona: (9:57 PM) yes if you hadent started 3 weeks ago
Your_Persona: (9:57 PM) you would still be happy, and people would still like you
GUNS: (9:57 PM) no
GUNS: (9:57 PM) i started being a prick cus peopel were being gay to me and i aint going to sit back and take it
Your_Persona: (9:57 PM) hey odtd_hunter wants to join this conversation... that ok w/ you?
GUNS: (9:58 PM) i alrdy in a game with him
Your_Persona: (9:58 PM) he wants to talk to you on icq w/ me
GUNS: (9:58 PM) i dont care...
Your_Persona: (10:01 PM) do you have msnmessanger?
GUNS: (10:02 PM) nope
GUNS: (10:02 PM) we could talk in alleg game
GUNS: (10:02 PM) yee-haw brought a game form 48 down to 27
Your_Persona: (10:03 PM) guns you just ruind 20 peoples day in 10 sec.
GUNS: (10:03 PM) game hadnt started yet
GUNS: (10:04 PM) i got alot of anger i got to take it out somewhere last time i did in reality i got arrested
GUNS: (10:05 PM) brougt a gong game form 20 to 7
Your_Persona: (10:06 PM) guns thats not something to be prowd of
GUNS: (10:06 PM) wow over a hours game too
Your_Persona: (10:06 PM) how bout you get your boss to meet me in game
GUNS: (10:07 PM) shit i just cged
GUNS: (10:07 PM) he isnt on now
Your_Persona: (10:07 PM) send me the report
GUNS: (10:07 PM) wtf i jsut cged
GUNS: (10:07 PM) how did i cg
Your_Persona: (10:07 PM) send me the html
GUNS: (10:07 PM) huh?
Your_Persona: (10:07 PM) so i can see how
Your_Persona: (10:07 PM) you know that html page
Your_Persona: (10:07 PM) save it
Your_Persona: (10:08 PM) send it to me
GUNS: (10:08 PM) oh to late lol
GUNS: (10:08 PM) you can tell by the addie?
Your_Persona: (10:08 PM) you closed it?
GUNS: (10:08 PM) y
Your_Persona: (10:08 PM) ya
GUNS: (10:08 PM) ysa
GUNS: (10:08 PM) lmao
GUNS: (10:08 PM) ya
GUNS: (10:08 PM) C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\MSRGReq.htm
that was the address
Your_Persona: (10:09 PM) is it still there?
Your_Persona: (10:09 PM) send it to me
GUNS: (10:09 PM) that is the address
Your_Persona: (10:09 PM) ok icq me that htm file
Your_Persona: (10:09 PM) icq me msrgreq.htm
GUNS: (10:09 PM) ok
GUNS: (10:10 PM) how can you tell?
Your_Persona: (10:11 PM) shit yours doesnt say.
GUNS: (10:11 PM) i joined and liek 6 yell there he is next thing i know i cg
GUNS: (10:11 PM) and i got full patch
Your_Persona: (10:12 PM) odd
Your_Persona: (10:12 PM) u using the max modulation?
GUNS: (10:13 PM) fuck i jsut cged again
GUNS: (10:13 PM) tf
GUNS: (10:13 PM) wtf
Your_Persona: (10:13 PM) send me that one
Your_Persona: (10:13 PM) maby it says
GUNS: (10:14 PM) ok someoen found a way to cg me
GUNS: (10:15 PM) i fire a cg
GUNS: (10:15 PM) and started cusing and next thing i know i cg
GUNS: (10:16 PM) well?
Your_Persona: (10:17 PM) nope not working
GUNS: (10:17 PM) sigh
GUNS: (10:18 PM) oh well someone else i think found a way througght patch
Your_Persona: (10:18 PM) any idea on who?
GUNS: (10:18 PM) no clue there were a good 30 people om there with patch who hate me
GUNS: (10:22 PM) oh well today was my last day of school so i got plenty of time to work killin alleg now first personal project is the zsquad site
Your_Persona: (10:22 PM) the site?
Your_Persona: (10:22 PM) like the MS alleg site?
GUNS: (10:23 PM) no the z squad site you know xxxxxx_z_
Your_Persona: (10:23 PM) no, i dont, i have seen some of them. but whats the url
GUNS: (10:23 PM) vegeta(krim) booted me lmao
GUNS: (10:23 PM) i forget the url
Your_Persona: (10:24 PM) your gonna hack it, and you dont know the url? lol
GUNS: (10:24 PM) but i will get it go at through dos ftp or cute and brute it
GUNS: (10:24 PM) lol i had it in favortites than i formatted
Your_Persona: (10:24 PM) you better hope the pw for it is lke 4 letters
Your_Persona: (10:25 PM) or its gonna take you a 6 months to brute it
GUNS: (10:25 PM) i know
GUNS: (10:25 PM) i am hoping it is something like his name lol
GUNS: (10:25 PM) i got into disney once
GUNS: (10:25 PM) omg the pass was mickey mouse
GUNS: (10:25 PM) i was like lmao
Your_Persona: (10:26 PM) lol
GUNS: (10:26 PM) hey i got cged again and i didnt cg and i also tried another server i wasnt ched
GUNS: (10:26 PM) someone in the big servers knows how to cg me
Your_Persona: (10:26 PM) you have a celeron 466 did you say?
GUNS: (10:27 PM) ya
GUNS: (10:27 PM) how did you know 466?
GUNS: (10:27 PM) oh the chrash guard file
GUNS: (10:27 PM) gives you all the info
Your_Persona: (10:28 PM) prog wasnt working so i am looking at it manually
GUNS: (10:28 PM) lmao
Your_Persona: (10:28 PM) god its hard as hell to find
GUNS: (10:29 PM) anyway i did contribute as much as i could i went throught the ice shit and stuff like that but i got nothing to do know and jsut palying is boring so cging is my shit
GUNS: (10:29 PM) but i aint used to peopel striking back lol
Your_Persona: (10:29 PM) dude you better be carefull your gonna get cought by MS
GUNS: (10:30 PM) so....?
Your_Persona: (10:30 PM) there gonna kick your ass
GUNS: (10:30 PM) i dont care if am caught i will jsut quit alleg
GUNS: (10:30 PM) they cant block me
GUNS: (10:30 PM) i got random ip i can get more names and i can get a new cd key
Your_Persona: (10:32 PM) what if they want to do more than block you?
Your_Persona: (10:32 PM) what if they want to send you to jell
GUNS: (10:32 PM) they cant do anything else....
GUNS: (10:33 PM) i aint doing anything illegal
Your_Persona: (10:33 PM) ya you are
GUNS: (10:33 PM) no i am not...
GUNS: (10:33 PM) if i were chrashing the comp or the server not the prog i would be
Your_Persona: (10:33 PM) you are using there program as a tool to crash peoples computers
GUNS: (10:33 PM) no i chrash a program on it not the actulaly comp
GUNS: (10:34 PM) lol can i inbed a file into one of you install files?
GUNS: (10:34 PM) so i can give everyone sub seven patch?
GUNS: (10:34 PM) i want to rly do some illegal shit
GUNS: (10:34 PM) i love sub seven
Your_Persona: (10:35 PM) what is that?
GUNS: (10:35 PM) a trojan
GUNS: (10:35 PM) like deep throat or back orfice
GUNS: (10:35 PM) can i test it on you?
GUNS: (10:35 PM) i can turn your screen upside down
GUNS: (10:35 PM) and shit lol
Your_Persona: (10:36 PM) no thats illegal
GUNS: (10:37 PM) logging my ip wont do jack
GUNS: (10:37 PM) now any way can i test this on you i swear to god i wont fuck anything up
Your_Persona: (10:37 PM) why do you say that?
Your_Persona: (10:38 PM) um. no
GUNS: (10:44 PM) fucking aol droped me
GUNS: (10:45 PM) you know i lost a few good friends over this cging i have taken losses to
GUNS: (10:45 PM) only a few people respected me now noone does....
Your_Persona: (10:45 PM) its your fault man
GUNS: (10:45 PM) no it isnt
Your_Persona: (10:45 PM) you crashing people isnt your fault?
GUNS: (10:46 PM) no it isnt you fualt for first giving peopel the idea to cg
GUNS: (10:46 PM) j/k
GUNS: (10:46 PM) what i mean is there is nothing else i could do i have no other from of power
Your_Persona: (10:46 PM) i wont take the rack for others evil doings
Your_Persona: (10:47 PM) your voice man
Your_Persona: (10:47 PM) the msg boards
GUNS: (10:47 PM) i lsot sabertooth i will miss him...
GUNS: (10:47 PM) huh?
Your_Persona: (10:51 PM) i wanna talk to the rest of the people in your group
GUNS: (10:51 PM) busy cusing at chemical
Your_Persona: (10:52 PM) your talking to chemical?
GUNS: (10:54 PM) yes making fun of him
GUNS: (11:00 PM) chem is so retarted
Your_Persona: (11:00 PM) no, chem is cool
GUNS: (11:01 PM) he is a dumb ass
GUNS: (11:01 PM) he is saying he can press charges if i chrash clients that is incorrect
GUNS: (11:03 PM) lmao
GUNS: (11:03 PM) that is so much bs
Your_Persona: (11:06 PM) i doubt that he is saying any bs
GUNS: (11:06 PM) lmao
GUNS: (11:07 PM) he says if i cg people he will press charges lol he cant first off prove it was me second cant prove that i did it on purpose 3rd cant prove that he didnt jsut make thaty ip up
I have the 2 crashguard reports he sent me, so We have All the Information about his computer/internet we could want. We have his real name, his IP block, His Email, AND his PLAN.
If anyone has any infomation that we could use to make a fix for what ever it is he is talking about, do not hesitate, tell us.
Your_Persona
