Should Globey's posting privileges be limited?

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Dome
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Globey is trolling(?) hard daily for the past couple months and I don't see the benefit of seeing anything he posts, on the contrary.

I could write a bit here detailing the many times he's strongly spouted false information, even when proven wrong. I could also write about the fact that it's important to have free speech and how it's necessary to hear and reflect on opposing viewpoints. It's my opinion that Globey has nothing of substance to offer anyone in this arena.

In this insane world of corruption, lies, selfishness, and hate I find myself wanting to do what I can to control my environment. Globey has proven to be irredeemable. I for one am in favor of moving him to rants.
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Post by Globemaster_III »

I agree. just do it, as i alway said it
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Post by ryujin »

No. I am for freedom of speech. I don't agree with hardly anything he says, when I can understand it. I think he is incredibally misguided and I am 100% fine with admins coming in and interrupting them with BOLD TEXT pointing out false hoods/alternative facts at any point they feel like it.

But at the same time if he can't back up his views I don't have a problem with his posting being limited. It would be funny to see him and elzam troll it out.
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Post by ryujin »

I guess change my vote from no to don't care if you can
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No, don't censor someone because they say things you disagree with.

Even if he is trolling, there are plenty of people who do agree with the things he says and a light needs to be shone on crazy @#(!.

This is Off Topic, so unless it is personal attacks or specifically contrary to forum rules it should be permitted.

Globey is contributing towards keeping Mr C's thread alive, and I want it to stay alive.

Don't $#@! around with populist bull@#(! A la a DT type poll where you are encouraged to conflate voting to revoke Globey's posting privileges on the mighty FAO boards with somehow sticking it to Trump.

Nobody here has skin thin enough to be upset with Globey's comments, and if they do they should switch from lite beer.

The forums are as dry as dust without people who are able to provide a POV that is contrary to others. We have chased off most of the characters who made the place interesting, just like we did in the game.

I have permitted, and Globe hasn't complained about borderline sideways stuff like being called Globe$#@!er. Be more like Globey, be tolerant of the opinion of others, even if it is 180 degrees from yours.

You cannot change the minds of people who are inclined to agree with the things Globey says by preventing others from debating with him. If you decline to do so, fine that's your choice, just don't seek to limit my choice to battle by voting to ban him. Some people may not have the sack to post this stuff, but by addressing the points made by Globey we are answering them all.

Encourage the outspoken and those prepared to defend their viewpoint robustly rather than seeking to limit them. It is what makes the place interesting. Celebrate: Camaro, Adept, Ryj, Kummy, Nak, TA et al. Dont seek to drive them away.

Lastly I have many happy memories of playing early morning for me, late night for them, games with Immy, Titty_Baby, Globey and others. When I come back to play it will be because of the people who make the place fun. Please don't drive away another one.

I have taken the trouble to write this on a Samsung tablet that doesn't seem to have been born with a button to turn off auto complete. Do you have any idea how many manual edits I have had to make to get this semi-legible diatribe on here? Please take this into account when voting.
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Post by ryujin »

Well said Duck.

And while I agree with you on what you just said (other than the fact none of the players you listed play anymore at all), If you are going to be merging my somewhat related to Trump post with general DT thread, than you should do the same with Globeys immigration protest, as it is also directly related to DT. Just for the sake of consistency.
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Post by Dome »

Duckwarrior wrote:QUOTE (Duckwarrior @ Feb 16 2017, 08:30 PM) Be more like Globey, be tolerant of the opinion of others, even if it is 180 degrees from yours.
Um what? You call Globey tolerant??? Do you read anything he posts?

Duck you go way too far. Debates can happen in rants. He could still play. And allowing him to spout bull@#(! in public just because you think it helps forum activity seems a bit odd doesn't it?

Also it's not that he has a POV that I disagree with, it's that he believes he's right even in the face of facts that disprove his stance. It's beyond a disagreement.

It's useless. Not something I want to see people be baited into. The novelty has worn off.
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Don't let liars claim lies as facts. It's what Trump does and the Moonies did.

Tell lies as facts loudly and often. Don't offer a retraction no matter how wrong your facts are proven to be. Avoid debating with fact checkers. Encourage your supporters not to venture where their flaky belief system will be challenged with reason. In Trump / Globey's case MSNBC/CNN/BBC. They much prefer Fox & RT. No challenging @#(! you have to think about there.

You may never change Globey's mind, but you may cause a fence sitter reading but not posting to question the source of the crap when you unremitingly call them on it.

I'm not afraid of Globey's position because I am comfortable that I have a reasoned argument with impirical facts to challenge Trumps infantile parroting of Fox News propoganda and lies.

You have to be prepared to confront and challenge it everywhere you see it Dome. Otherwise you end up building walls rather than tearing them down.
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Duckwarrior wrote:QUOTE (Duckwarrior @ Feb 16 2017, 09:15 PM) Don't let liars claim lies as facts. It's what Trump does and the Moonies did.

Tell lies as facts loudly and often. Don't offer a retraction no matter how wrong your facts are proven to be. Avoid debating with fact checkers. Encourage your supporters not to venture where the8e belief system will be challenged.

You may never change Globey's mind, but you may cause a fence sitter reading but not posting to question the source of the crap when you unremitingly call them on it.

I'm not afraid of Globey's position because I am comfortable that I have a reasoned argument with impirical facts to challenge Trumps infantile parroting of Fox News propoganda and lies.

You have to challenge it Dome or you end up building walls rather than tearing them down.
There's no time to debate this guy on Allegiance forums!!!(not here too!) It's useless and I have my doubts about the prevalence of fence-sitters. For the rest I agree with you in essence but for the love of god we don't need more of this @#(! infecting Allegiance. GIVE ME THIS SMALL PIECE OF SOLACE.
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Post by Duckwarrior »

Brother I hear you.

The world needs a devil's advocate though to make us question and challenge our own beliefs. How else do we change and refine our position on a subject?

Peace xxx.

Oops. Just noticed it says move him to rants. Sorry I thought it said ban him, need to read more carefully.

Still want to challenge him here though. Vote stays the same.
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