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Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 10:39 am
by peet
Interesting article.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/20...rded-fbi-boston
QUOTE BURNETT: Tim, is there any way, obviously, there is a voice mail they can try to get the phone companies to give that up at this point. It's not a voice mail. It's just a conversation. There's no way they actually can find out what happened, right, unless she tells them?
CLEMENTE: "No, there is a way. We certainly have ways in national security investigations to find out exactly what was said in that conversation. It's not necessarily something that the FBI is going to want to present in court, but it may help lead the investigation and/or lead to questioning of her. We certainly can find that out.
BURNETT: "So they can actually get that? People are saying, look, that is incredible.
CLEMENTE: "No, welcome to America. All of that stuff is being captured as we speak whether we know it or like it or not."[/quote]
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 11:19 am
by takingarms1
Scary stuff.
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 11:55 am
by Sundance_
Big Brother, eh?
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 12:03 pm
by MonAG
Which means they are probably recording everything that is being typed in this forum.
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:44 pm
by djrbk
I've always mentally facepalmed at Derpy Americans saying that everyone hates 'Murica because they hate their FREEDOM so damn much.
Looking real free there, 'Murica!
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:44 pm
by Malicious Wraith
Illegal
The FBI can't even record all of the conversations of people they have wire tapped, through warrant!
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 2:20 pm
by HJ_KG
Behind Winston's back the voice from the telescreen was still babbling away about pig-iron and the overfulfilment of the Ninth Three-Year Plan.
The telescreen received and transmitted simultaneously. Any sound that Winston made, above the level of a very low whisper, would be picked up by it, moreover, so long as he remained within the field of vision which the metal plaque commanded, he could be seen as well as heard. There was of course no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given moment. How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork.
It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time. But at any rate they could plug in your wire whenever they wanted to. You had to live--did live, from habit that became instinct--in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard, and, except in darkness, every movement scrutinized.
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 3:46 pm
by lexaal
Malicious Wraith wrote:QUOTE (Malicious Wraith @ May 6 2013, 03:44 PM) The FBI can't even record all of the conversations of people they have wire tapped, through warrant!
That is the real problem. Secret services in Europe and in the U.S. are too busy collecting data that they don't have any time using that data.
Example: 1 Terrorist from boston was in "the list".
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 4:19 pm
by peet
If Google Voice can make a fairly accurate written transcript of voicemail messages in my box for free, should it not be easy for a government to transcribe regular phone calls too? Maybe filter for certain words?
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 4:24 pm
by madpeople
I'm not surprised.
I'll just leave this here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center (also a
wired article)
A Yottabyte is a lotta' bytes.
lexaal wrote:QUOTE (lexaal @ May 6 2013, 04:46 PM) Example: 1 Terrorist from boston was in "the list".
"the list" is also called the "census"?
peet wrote:QUOTE (peet @ May 6 2013, 05:19 PM) If Google Voice can make a fairly accurate written transcript of voicemail messages in my box for free, should it not be easy for a government to transcribe regular phone calls too? Maybe filter for certain words?
Why filter? Just save everything in case it's useful, hdds are cheap.