Sheriff Metz wrote:QUOTE (Sheriff Metz @ Mar 13 2013, 11:47 PM) But if Dreg has a 20% yield perk doesn't that mean that Dreg has to mine 20% less of that 36% more?
meaning that Dreg would have to mine 29% more, based on your numbers (assuming no yield perks)
honestly I probably don't remember how math works
That was established during part of the formula. The argument is that IC needs 40,000 units of helium to get what Dreg needs 65,000 units of helium to get. If their yields were the same, IC would have gotten 48,000 units of helium (or alternatively Dreg would only need 54,000 units of helium).
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((ICCOST)/(ICYIELD)) / ($/Helium) / (DREGCOST)/(DREGYIELD) / ($/Helium)
This is the ratio of helium they need to mine (which is a better way of estimating costs than looking at some random percentages). That's because the amount of helium needed is (roughly) given by the cost divided by the yield. Notice how the $/helium is constant (that's how much spacebucks you get for 1 helium as defined by the core) and cancels itself out. This leaves us with, inputting numbers (and rounding to 2 sig figs for dreg):
Or
This gives us the ratio how much cheaper IC is than Dreg. Inverting that gives us the ratio of how much more expensive (in terms of how much RAW HELIUM must be mined) Dreg is than IC:
That gives us 1.3651... which means that Dreg needs 137% as much helium as IC does to get advanced ships. Since IC has to mine 100% of the helium IC needs to get advanced ships, the difference between Dreg and IC is (137-100)% or 37%.
If we assume 6k per rock for IC (5400 is a full miner on WC2, no GA), IC needs 7 rocks to get adv ships. Dreg, on the other hand, needs 10. (These are rounded to whole numbers because we're assuming you just mine whole rocks). 10/7 = 1.42, or Dreg needs 42% as many rocks. (Again, rounding to whole numbers messes with it a little).
No matter how you slice it the idea that Dreg is only 5% more expensive than IC is ludicrous.
(Dreg *IS* only 5% more expensive than Rix.)
(It's also worth noting that we're excluding paydays and building construction. I'll put together an analysis of paydays, building construction, and other @#(! like that for HiHigher)
NightRychune wrote:QUOTE (NightRychune @ Mar 14 2013, 01:49 AM) lol
i never said anything about how much more expensive it was to buy specific techs
i only said dreg was 5% more expensive
dreg helium mines are infinitely more expensive than IC helium mines by the way
So what part of what I said is untrue for supremacy or tactical?
What the $#@! are you doing with Dreg where they only have to mine 5% more helium to buy tech? I mean I guess Dreg bbrs are only 5% more expensive than IC... but if the only thing you're buying with Dreg is bbrs...