Discussion of Bios changes
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NightRychune
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I feel like Bios can get adv tech even without miners, and so I feel like when I'm flying against bios attacking miners is just a method to assure they don't get a second tech, and I feel like that's insane.
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Cookie Monster wrote:QUOTE (Cookie Monster @ Apr 1 2009, 09:35 PM) But I don't read the forums I only post.
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NightRychune
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Didn't read the entire thread mostly skimmed a lot, but adding some opinion. You'll live.
Mostly I think the reason bios feels overpowered is the general default tactic of most commanders to "Build their empire". You expand, you push to adv tech and you fight the economy war, which I mostly agree upon as a very solid tactic; however, if our idea is to force bios into that role so that commanders don't have to think different strategy then yes they need balancing. Bios is a unique faction in that their economy, while important, is not as important as other factions. It is by far exagerating to say they don't need an economy at all, they do, but they don't need 4 miners working all the time to be effective. A commander should not let bios sit, you need to push them hard and early, pick a faction that does this, choose map and settings that allow this, if you have that choice, if its a large map push hard across that map. Think of why you don't see bios in SGs much, SGs are fast, violent and aggressive, not something condusive to a long end game faction. But strategy is not our goal in this thread so I'll digress.
Please do not make large sweeping changes to this faction. While I am a bit biased as Bios is one of my favorite factions, start small, as suggested 1 and 2 may not be bad options.
Possibly considering making starbase cheaper for other factions?
See how things go.
Just don't take a faction that we see rarely in pugs and never in SGs and reduce it to a faction that is never played at all because commanders don't like to be outside of their comfort zone.
Didn't read the entire thread mostly skimmed a lot, but adding some opinion. You'll live.
Mostly I think the reason bios feels overpowered is the general default tactic of most commanders to "Build their empire". You expand, you push to adv tech and you fight the economy war, which I mostly agree upon as a very solid tactic; however, if our idea is to force bios into that role so that commanders don't have to think different strategy then yes they need balancing. Bios is a unique faction in that their economy, while important, is not as important as other factions. It is by far exagerating to say they don't need an economy at all, they do, but they don't need 4 miners working all the time to be effective. A commander should not let bios sit, you need to push them hard and early, pick a faction that does this, choose map and settings that allow this, if you have that choice, if its a large map push hard across that map. Think of why you don't see bios in SGs much, SGs are fast, violent and aggressive, not something condusive to a long end game faction. But strategy is not our goal in this thread so I'll digress.
Please do not make large sweeping changes to this faction. While I am a bit biased as Bios is one of my favorite factions, start small, as suggested 1 and 2 may not be bad options.
Possibly considering making starbase cheaper for other factions?
See how things go.
Just don't take a faction that we see rarely in pugs and never in SGs and reduce it to a faction that is never played at all because commanders don't like to be outside of their comfort zone.
"Someday, We'll Find It... The Rainbow Connection." ~ Kermit
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Idanmel wrote:QUOTE (Idanmel @ Mar 19 2012, 05:54 AM) I am ashamed for all the drama I caused, I have much to learn on how to behave when things don't go my way.
My apologies.
Right now a lot of the reason BIos is rarely played is because of the stigma it has of being "overpowered."
Don't find fault, find a remedy; anybody can complain.
Cookie Monster wrote:QUOTE (Cookie Monster @ Apr 1 2009, 09:35 PM) But I don't read the forums I only post.
LOL omfg really.
Been what 11 years and I've never seen anyone in the community go "oh this is cheesey and overpowered, I think I'll stop playing it"
Bios is a come back faction, they need to live a long time. Most people want quick fast games. That and a commander needs to know WTF they are doing with bios or you get rolled easy.
Been what 11 years and I've never seen anyone in the community go "oh this is cheesey and overpowered, I think I'll stop playing it"
Bios is a come back faction, they need to live a long time. Most people want quick fast games. That and a commander needs to know WTF they are doing with bios or you get rolled easy.
"Someday, We'll Find It... The Rainbow Connection." ~ Kermit
I know most commanders throw a hissy fit when the other side goes Bios and refuses to launch. Same with TF these days. Sure, when the best coms step up people are willing to play bios, but most of the time the commanding quality isn't that high.
The attitude is not, "Oh, that's cheesy so I won't play it." The attitude is "Oh, that's cheesy, I'm going to sit on AFK until you change your faction."
The attitude is not, "Oh, that's cheesy so I won't play it." The attitude is "Oh, that's cheesy, I'm going to sit on AFK until you change your faction."
Don't find fault, find a remedy; anybody can complain.
Cookie Monster wrote:QUOTE (Cookie Monster @ Apr 1 2009, 09:35 PM) But I don't read the forums I only post.