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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:58 pm
by Broodwich
Xeretov wrote:QUOTE (Xeretov @ Jun 29 2009, 12:09 AM) Gat sprites came up in a recent topic, although TF wasn't specifically mentioned.
Unlike the PW gat sprites, PE gats use the exact same sprite between the different levels of the gat. The only difference is the sprite size as determined by the core. Gat 1 has a small sprite, Gat 2 is 50% bigger than Gat 1, and Gat 3 is twice the size of gat 1. This has never been a problem because when you get gat2 and gat3 you have a lead indicator and watching the huge sprites isn't a problem.
Since we're removing the indicators, I think we should drop the gat2 and gat3 sprite sizes down to that of gat1.
Another option we have is creating one or two new sprites. We can either replace the current set with one that scales better (the current gat sprite has that annoying teal aura around the center), or leave the current gat1 sprite and create new ones for gat2 and gat3. I've made a couple as examples, see below.
The upside to new sprites is that we can fix some of the issues with the current set, namely that teal aura I mentioned, and the scale is also a bit more adjustable. You'd also be able to tell the difference between the different levels of gat like you can with the PW versions.
The downside is that anyone with a modded sprite would only have a modded gat1 at that point. Not a big issue since they hopefully won't need a modded sprite for the new gat versions. On that note, they'd be able to mod the different levels individually at that point anyways. The major downside is actually pushing the two new artwork files out, since we've had a hiccup trying to get the fuel & ammo icons on AU.
Here's some pictures on the gat sprites and the quick ones I whipped up:
Gat 1(this is the current sprite)
Gat 2
Gat 3
Alternatively someone with more inspiration than my copy/paste/fade might create or have better sprites.
courtesy of xer, we might actually have some nice looking gat sprites for tf.
Personally I'd like gat1 sprites reduced as well, if we get a good response we will go ahead and do that
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:12 pm
by Adept
Nice sprites, but why should TF have different size sprits than the others anyway?
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:17 pm
by Xeretov
Adept wrote:QUOTE (Adept @ Nov 15 2009, 06:12 PM) Nice sprites, but why should TF have different size sprits than the others anyway?
Thats exactly my question!
TF right now uses one sprite. All it does it make it bigger as you get gat2 and gat3.
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:19 pm
by Broodwich
if you couldnt tell this was from jun, i just remembered it recently and started complaining about it
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:26 am
by Mastametz
Adept wrote:QUOTE (Adept @ Nov 15 2009, 03:12 PM) Nice sprites, but why should TF have different size sprits than the others anyway?
Why should any faction be any different from any of the others?
It might have something to do with the fact that....TF GUNS AREN'T LIKE THE OTHERS
Different sprites are cheating, FACE THE FACTS
MAKE ALL FACTIONS THE SAME SO GAME CAN B BALANCED
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:21 am
by DasSmiter
Who let masta in.
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:27 am
by sambasti
BlackViper wrote:Masta is my first general pardon. We will review others on occasion.
Welcome back Masta!
He did.
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:44 am
by Broodwich
you can currently mod your sprites to look like david hasslehoff if you want, and we arent talking about making them the same, just smaller so you can actually see around them
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:17 am
by Mastametz
Broodwich wrote:QUOTE (Broodwich @ Nov 15 2009, 11:44 PM) you can currently mod your sprites to look like david hasslehoff if you want, and we arent talking about making them the same, just smaller so you can actually see around them
Adept was suggesting they should be the same "as the others"
That is stupid.
Them being smaller to compensate for loss of lead indicator is reasonable.
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:42 am
by Exo
Mastametz wrote:QUOTE (Mastametz @ Nov 16 2009, 03:17 AM) Adept was suggesting they should be the same "as the others"
That is stupid.
Once again Masta suffers Readfail...
Mastametz wrote:QUOTE (Mastametz @ Nov 13 2009, 07:49 PM)
fwiffo wrote:QUOTE (fwiffo @ Oct 30 2009, 09:49 PM)
ok thanks, im just gonig through faction by faction with a fine toothed comb and just checking for consistency
Because if we homogenize every faction to be the same, the game will be better!
Fwiffo simply was checking through each faction to check for factional consistencies - i.e. maintenance of faction unique traits throughout their techtrees.
And Adept is trying to ascertain why TF sprites are so based on balance assumptions. Backed up by Xer and Brood given the loss of lead indicators which now mean you have to actually look where you're shooting.
Please, read first, then read again, then think. Then read a third time, and think again, before posting your crap that doesn't help anyway.
ps. very nice sprites, especially the gat3, it's actually quite cool to see the reduction in flare effect as the tech level goes up.