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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:53 pm
by fwiffo
rix has it, i think other factions do too.
also, is ship speed ga intentionally 4k instead of 5k?
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:33 pm
by Xeretov
Hmm, I think you're right. Looks like this was an issue in CC_06 as well, but nobody noticed. I believe hvy counters are still unintentionally useless though, although to my knowledge it hasn't been tested recently. For those of you curious, hvy counters supposedly drop from the exact center of the capship. Meaning a spoofed missile would still track into the ship and hit it.
As for the ship speed GA, I believe it is intentionally priced at 4K. All other first level GAs are 20% cheaper than the second level, so speed probably got the reduction too for consistency. None of the GA prices have been changed in any CC release yet though.
Thanks for the catch!
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:08 pm
by Dorjan
I never got the whole hvy counter thing
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:11 am
by Vlymoxyd
I think Hvy counter should be tied to small one. I don't see myself buying those ever.
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:27 am
by Broodwich
looking in ice hvy counters are extremely powerful, while regular cm "strengths" are
1: 1.5
2: 2.25
3: 3.375
Heavy CMs are
1: 3
2: 4.5
3. 6.75
Now I dont recall the missle vs cm spoofing equation, and I'm fairly certain the last time i read it wasnt very simple or easy to remember, but If CM resistance for missles and CM strength are on a 1:1 ratio, Hvy counters and their upgrades would be extremely valuable for dealing with any type of tracking missle (dumbfires, killers, and killer swarm have the highest cm resistance with 3 and 4.5). If we could get them to launch properly it might help with sy's resistance to sup
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:29 am
by Death3D
Just scrap CMs on Capships altogether?
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:31 pm
by zombywoof
Except that the problem with the sup/sy matchup isn't the dumbfire missiles it's the dis3 and galvs.
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:28 pm
by Broodwich
1 dumb2 does as much damage as 3 dis2's in a second against caps
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:11 pm
by DasSmiter
Just gotta work with the devs on getting the counter to eject like a prox or something.
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:45 am
by zombywoof
Broodwich wrote:QUOTE (Broodwich @ Nov 12 2009, 01:28 PM) 1 dumb2 does as much damage as 3 dis2's in a second against caps
Dis2 CC06
2 points per shot
8 shots/second
16 damage/second * 4 = 64damage/s * 3 = 192 d/s/fig
16 damage/second * 4 = 64damage/s * 3 = 192 d/s/fig
Dumb2 CC06
1 missile = 125 damage * 1.33 = 166 damage/missile.
Also according to TEK a fig can continuously fire 3 dis2 for ~ 6.5-7 seconds.
HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS