Belters TP2

finki · Post by **finki** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:21 pm

Because making topics about Belters is in fashion and it seems my suggestion in the other Belters-topic wasn't really recognized I make a new one.

Please let Belters lose TP2 if they lose their AdvSup and/or Starbase - basis of discussion here

They lose HTTs with Exp, SBs with Tac but can keep one of the most powerful game ending tech if they lose Sup - that's not the way it was intended in my opinion.

This problem gets even more annoying since Hvy Scouts aren't tied to the Starbase.
With their cheap techbases Belters can survive quite long and perfectly sneaky TP2 you to the end with their powerful bombers (keeping the stronger abs also) even if they don't have a Starbase and AdvSup anymore - an unbalanced fact I think

Discuss. Thanks!

Dark_Sponge · Post by **Dark_Sponge** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:02 pm

Hell, they can just steal tp2 and start using it! No Sup needed at all. I love Belters but that is cheese and 1/2.

djrbk · Post by **djrbk** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:22 pm

Agreed.

Keeping TP1 would make sense with their nature imo, but isn't tp2 adv tech anyway? (sorry, forgot..) if not, perhaps it should be adv sup tech?

Adept · Post by **Adept** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:35 am

djrbk wrote:QUOTE (djrbk @ Dec 2 2008, 12:22 AM) Keeping TP1 would make sense with their nature imo, but isn't tp2 adv tech anyway?

Keeping TP1 sounds good to me too, but not TP2.

Shouldn't this topic have a poll?

finki · Post by **finki** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:44 am

Adept wrote:QUOTE (Adept @ Dec 2 2008, 10:35 AM) Shouldn't this topic have a poll?

Here you are.

EDIT: Keeping TP1 sounds good to me too

HSharp · Post by **HSharp** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:49 am

I'm pretty sure all factions keep tp1 regardless of starbase death or not. But it does make sense to not allow belts to keep tp2 if thier sup dies.

But common misconception is that belts lose advanced tech when they lose adv techbase. Not actually true, they lose advanced ships but they still keep adv tech. If you have belts rainbow tech and get omni fighters and galvs, even if you lose sup you can still get galvs on omni figs making belts a pretty hardy faction (does require an adv techbase to keep the omnis).

So really it actually looks like keeping tp2 sticks with the belters way of keeping adv tech, not adv ships. Yes belters can tp2 xrm even if thier sup dies as long as they have already bought hvy bombers and xrm.

But hey, thats belters for ya

CronoDroid · Post by **CronoDroid** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:38 pm

ALL Hvy Scouts should be tied to $#@!ing Starbase, not just Belters, in fact I will make a topic after this post.

Agreed Belters should lose TP2 if they lose Adv Sup, but not Starbase.

TP1 should be lost if they lose Starbase, not Adv Sup.

Post by **pkk** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 4:35 pm

djrbk wrote:QUOTE (djrbk @ Dec 1 2008, 11:22 PM) Keeping TP1 would make sense with their nature imo, but isn't tp2 adv tech anyway? (sorry, forgot..) if not, perhaps it should be adv sup tech?

CronoDroid wrote:QUOTE (CronoDroid @ Dec 2 2008, 01:38 PM) TP1 should be lost if they lose Starbase, not Adv Sup.

All factions keep TP1, if they loose Starbase. All faction get TP1, if they steal TP1 (2?) without having Garr.

CronoDroid wrote:QUOTE (CronoDroid @ Dec 2 2008, 01:38 PM) ALL Hvy Scouts should be tied to $#@!ing Starbase, not just Belters, in fact I will make a topic after this post.

No they don't, ATM you can research HvyScouts, without having a Starbase, because they are based on Devel Techbase + AdvScout.

djrbk · Post by **djrbk** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:56 pm

oic.

Perhaps other factions should lose TP1 with the lose of their starbase?

Dark_Sponge · Post by **Dark_Sponge** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:13 am

djrbk wrote:QUOTE (djrbk @ Dec 2 2008, 03:56 PM) Perhaps other factions should lose TP1 with the lose of their starbase?

I don't think any garrison/starbase tech is lost when it dies.

I'm fine with that.