Viper Mark II vs Viper Mark VII

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Alright, so Psych brought up a point in IRC earlier: The Viper Mark II outclasses the Viper Mark VII. I'll post what he said:

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[Sun May 11 13:23:56] <+PsycH[yawn]> andon FYI
[Sun May 11 13:24:06] <+PsycH[yawn]> the viper mark II
[Sun May 11 13:24:15] <+PsycH[yawn]> kicks the everloving @#(! out of the Mark VII
[Sun May 11 13:24:23] <@Wurfie> po po
[Sun May 11 13:24:23] <+[Andon]> Howso?
[Sun May 11 13:24:26] <+PsycH[yawn]> that third gun is worthless
[Sun May 11 13:24:30] <+PsycH[yawn]> its mount is ugly
[Sun May 11 13:24:34] <+PsycH[yawn]> you waste ammo
[Sun May 11 13:24:37] <+PsycH[yawn]> and on top of that
[Sun May 11 13:24:50] <+PsycH[yawn]> the MK II is faster and more maneuverable
[Sun May 11 13:24:52] <+PsycH[yawn]> not to mention smaller
[Sun May 11 13:25:21] <+PsycH[yawn]> to put it bluntly, in an MK VII I got hosed, i switched to an MK II and stopped dying immediately
[Sun May 11 13:25:36] <+PsycH[yawn]> by the end of our DM, everyone was in MK II's
[Sun May 11 13:25:46] <+PsycH[yawn]> because anyone in an MK VII was a flying target[/quote]

What are your thoughts? How would you like to see the ships changed so that they are different but still equally viable?
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Post by Mordechaj »

give mk VII more rockets and more fuel?
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I'm thinking of giving the VII more hull and the II the lower hull. Also give the VII more ammo rather than the II
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and fix the third gunmount?
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i think that if you fix the 3rd gunmount and maybe increase the ammo of the craft it will work
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What are you guys referring to when you are saying fix the third gunmount?
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I've no idea but perhaps the 3rd gun mount is farther from center than the others.
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I like it the way it is.... this way I get to fly circles around everyone else!
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Changes from 0.33A (Current on AU) to 0.33C:

Viper Mark II:
Max Speed reduced from 425 to 400
Ammo reduced from 3000 to 2000
HP Reduced from 350 to 300

Viper Mark VII:
Max Speed increased from 350 to 375
Ammo reduced from 2750 to 2250
HP increased from 300 to 400
Energy changed to 1600 and 0 regen
Third (Center top) gun changed to a 'Light KEW' that runs off of energy instead of ammo and does slightly less damage than KEW1
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Post by Psychosis »

Ramaglor wrote:
QUOTE (Ramaglor @ May 13 2008, 10:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I like it the way it is.... this way I get to fly circles around everyone else!

ram showed me the MKIV error of my ways, once converted to the way of the MKII there is no going back.
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