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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:44 am
by Holy_Fire
Hi everyone.
I am a newbie. I am not currently able to actually help a team I'm playing with. But to get to that level, I need to play games, right? So I've read in several places about the existence of "newbie servers" for people like me. However, I was not able to locate these severs. The servers I did find were not what I'd call "newbie friendly" (I mostly get ignored). So... What do I do?
Thanks.
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:06 am
by GreyVulpine
Hi there, and welcome to Allegianceā¢. It's quite possibly the hardest game you'll ever play. Sure there are the few loud-mouthed 'veterans' who have a distaste for newbies... but you'll also find that this community also has its good guys.
Seems the dedicated newbie server(s) are down at the moment, but its not really all that helpful much. To really understand this game, you just gotta keep playing with the other people. Use the newbie server to learn and set-up your controls, but beyond that, it's useless.
Want to learn this game? Read
this. It has links to stuff which will get you on the fast track to understanding this game. The
Allegiance Academy is a website chock full of information. The community also runs an 8 week crash course called
@Cadet, where you have access to a private forum, with vets who actually do want to help new people understand and feel welcome to this game.
Please check those out. See you in-game!
-GreyVulpine
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:30 am
by Holy_Fire
Okay, thanks. I'll do my best to follow your suggestions.
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:25 pm
by juckto
If anyone gives you a command - and I mean they clicked on your ship and gave you a waypoint/ordered you to pick something up/ordered you to attack something, not just a general 'do such-and-such thing newb' over the chat - then ask them why they want you to do that.
The theory being that if they have enough time to give you specific commands, then they have enough time to explain why they want you to do those commands.
For example:
New Order from juckto: Pick up Gatt 2 (Press Insert to accept)
You hit insert, then:
Holy_Fire: juckto, Why do you want me to pick up Gatt 2?
juckto: Cause if you bring it home we don't need to pay for the research.
juckto: ...
juckto: Make sure you get it home /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />
Holy_Fire: Oh. okay
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:16 pm
by Holy_Fire
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:38 pm
by Nevearo
You know, I ran into that problem myself. First time I log in, I hunt for these so-called "Noob" Servers so I won't piss someone off when I do something stupid like shoot my own miners because I thought they were attacking my miners or something (Okay, I am not THAT stupid, but still...)
Anyway, I ask what happened to the Noob servers and I get some crap about "Oh no, another noob who is blah blah blah."
(I'd repeat exactly what was said, but I feel the need to preserve the intellegence of mankind. Who knows, we may need it someday! /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> )
My policy is not to ruin the game for 40 other people, so unless I get a group that isn't hostile to the idea of my "book learning" I won't be playing. So hopfully we'll see those noob servers back up soon.
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:51 pm
by TinCan3
A gaming community I belong to has recently setup a server that you may feel free to join and play whenever you want to, no matter how new you are. Most of our members are very new to this game as well and decided that a server of our own was better than all of us joining the main server and creating problems there. We wish to learn this game at our own pace and without the pressure of "win at all costs". Having fun is our main objective, and IMO you don't have to win every time to have fun at this.
There are a few quality vets that happen to join us once in awhile as well and usually help everyone as much as the can while in game. The server isn't populated all of the time like the main server but feel free to join us whenever you see players there.
The name of the server is MUTINYONLINE.COM. Everyone is welcome play there.
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:52 pm
by FreeBeer
The other open servers are available, too. Just organize yourself and have at it! There's nothing in the RoC that forces you to accept vets into the game. /mrgreen.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="mrgreen.gif" /> However, it is recommended that you find an experienced player to answer questions along the way. Your choice, though.
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:37 am
by Holy_Fire
Yeah, having an experienced player to help and organize things is a must, which makes newbie-only games ineffective. Though, just playing yourself and learning by experimentation can also be fun...
TinCan3, I did enjoy playing on MutinyOnline with you, and will keep in mind to spend more time there (I did try to organize something there the other day, but things got messy when too many vets joined).
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:19 pm
by Nevearo
Newbie-only games serve one important function. I used to play Freelancer on a server with this guy called "Death's Emporium"
He'd kill me about 17 times before I could even hit him. I'm not the best at Freelancer, but I am not a Newbie either. This guy had some advice for me. He said "You don't really learn from dieing all the time, you learn from your victories, so you are gaining nothing by fighting me."
Usually me and 2 others would fight him for hours. When he was outnumbered we usually won /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> hehe, anyway, the point is, in a normal server action is real quick, I learned that yesterday. I was told we were loosing and I have no idea why. Things change in the time it takes to go half a system into a new Aleph. I still don't know how to "Find the Alephs!" because whenever I try, someone else zips by me and spots them. I know in theroy that astroids need to be found, but I have never found one myself yet. In a newbie server, you have a bunch of idoits trying to do exactly what you are doing. You have as much of a chance to succede as the next guy. This allows you to "Learn from your victories" which is tons better then learning how to die, or being the guy to go first to see if there's a minefield on the other end, which is what the average newbie is worth on a regular server.