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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:16 pm
by Adept
spideycw wrote:QUOTE (spideycw @ Sep 19 2010, 06:09 PM) Adept is married?
Freaky isn't it.

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:19 pm
by UncleBuck
Orion wrote:QUOTE (Orion @ Sep 19 2010, 02:12 PM) That too. This hole was not exploitable until the source code was released.

Seriously UncleBuck, your ignorance is telling.

I said SEVERAL secruity holes. I dont know about YOU, but i count 4, that have been known to exist for 5+ years.Only 2 of which required allegiance source code. My point was asgs had been flawed since launch, but you are only in the last year making a new security tool. My question was WHY?


I am not attempting troll, its a question, if everyone knew these flaws existed for so long why did the dev team wait so long to make css?


Im not sure where you get the idea imago is my hero either.

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:01 pm
by Orion
UncleBuck wrote:QUOTE (UncleBuck @ Sep 19 2010, 01:19 PM) I am not attempting troll, its a question, if everyone knew these flaws existed for so long why did the dev team wait so long to make css?
I'll just say the same thing again, I guess.. since last time it didn't seep into your skull: They are going around the security system, the security system does not stop them from getting in, this flaw is in the lobby code, not the security system. I don't know how to say it any simpler: The security system is not relevant to this particular exploit. Hablas ingles?

As for why the security system was not replaced before now.. lethargy? lack of need? no initiative? It's not relevant though, because they're bypassing the security system altogether. This exploit falls outside of the scope of ASGS, and inside the realm of the allegiance dev team. One member of which, as you may know, was Imago.

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:14 pm
by UncleBuck
Orion wrote:QUOTE (Orion @ Sep 19 2010, 03:01 PM) I'll just say the same thing again, I guess.. since last time it didn't seep into your skull: They are going around the security system, the security system does not stop them from getting in, this flaw is in the lobby code, not the security system. I don't know how to say it any simpler: The security system is not relevant to this particular exploit. Hablas ingles?

As for why the security system was not replaced before now.. lethargy? lack of need? no initiative? It's not relevant though, because they're bypassing the security system altogether. This exploit falls outside of the scope of ASGS, and inside the realm of the allegiance dev team. One member of which, as you may know, was Imago.

You are not following the basic concept. You've had allegiance code for years, and no one has even TRIED to fix the holes. This has NOTHING to do with ASGS, it has to do with fixing known exploits and cheats, that some people have been using for years, either undetected, or the people in charge just didnt care.

MANY people for example have aiming reticles turned on every ship, this is not a secret, its been known for half a decade. Do not pretend this is about asgs, its about fixing exploits in allegiance it self.

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:15 pm
by Raveen
Orion wrote:QUOTE (Orion @ Sep 19 2010, 07:11 PM) You cannot pin this one on TE or pook, try as you may.
UB, if you know anything about this community you'll know how extraordinary it is to see Orion defending Pook and TE (and it's great credit to his character that he is on this occasion).

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:17 pm
by UncleBuck
Raveen wrote:QUOTE (Raveen @ Sep 19 2010, 03:15 PM) UB, if you know anything about this community you'll know how extraordinary it is to see Orion defending Pook and TE (and it's great credit to his character that he is on this occasion).

Honestly, i have no idea if TE knew about these problems, I do know thalgor and pook both did half a decade+ ago.

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:03 pm
by Shautsky
The first public 3 page+ thread where J*m*n has not already posted. Odd..

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:19 pm
by Jimen
faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaart

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:25 pm
by Adept
Shautsky wrote:QUOTE (Shautsky @ Sep 20 2010, 01:03 AM) The first public 3 page+ thread where J*m*n has not already posted. Odd..
Jimen wrote:QUOTE (Jimen @ Sep 20 2010, 01:19 AM) faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaart
He was being polite and holding it in.

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:02 am
by Romeo_
Adept wrote:QUOTE (Adept @ Sep 19 2010, 05:25 PM) He was being polite and holding it in.

:lol:

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