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aem wrote:QUOTE (aem @ Aug 3 2006, 05:24 AM) If there is something you dislike in beta, you need to speak up on the FAZ forum, make a thread about it.

the old faz forums we couldnt make new threads.

i complained about it where i could, conversation quickly moved onto other bugs etc.

then RL kept me busy

p.s. TE are you going to answer my other points, or jsut choose the last one / the one that isnt much use to me in terms of results of every post?

Terralthra wrote:QUOTE (Terralthra @ Aug 3 2006, 09:46 AM) US phrase is "tempest in a teapot."

Typical Americans exaggerating all the time /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

Sure you can slow yourself. Hell, you can even thrust in the general direction you wanna go. The problem is that you couldnt TURN yourself. Unless your sooo good that you do all your fighting facing the same direction, thrusting isnt really the factor were all interested in.

Raveen wrote:QUOTE (Raveen @ Aug 3 2006, 10:32 AM) Typical Americans exaggerating all the time /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

They have bigger storms... ergo the need for a bigger container. /mrgreen.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="mrgreen.gif" />

Viscur wrote:QUOTE (Viscur @ Aug 3 2006, 03:22 PM) Sure you can slow yourself. Hell, you can even thrust in the general direction you wanna go. The problem is that you couldnt TURN yourself. Unless your sooo good that you do all your fighting facing the same direction, thrusting isnt really the factor were all interested in.

you could turn your self, you just had to ether dl corts ui, or mod a .mdl file to display the minimap during launch, then you could ap to any sector you wanted during launch. - and take you to where you want to go / some where usefull

now, sure you can turn, but not nesscarrally any where usefull


also, as for the comment that this wasnt commented on strongley enough during beta as it has now.

example

[quote=""during beta comment""]hi,
the turning in launch animation is really annoying, and just slows people down.
can you please remove it from the final release unless you can turn it on and off while in base

I got stressed wth it and went back to playing normal alleg[/quote]

[quote=""when it is released""]OMGWTFFF HAXOR111!11!11, YOU RURINED THE ^&^&*%$% GAME EVERY TIME I LAUNCH I AM FLYING $%$%^%£$%$£$£ GONNA 567664%$$££"" PLAY $£"$£ RUNescape 46%$£$$ hope%$^$^ die[/quote]

the context of a comment when it is in beta to when it is released is different.

i am kinda annoyed that i did beta test, i did comment / complain about it
i did the correct things, nothing happend.

now, as for TE's comments along the lines of, you dont like it, you fix it.

you would probabbly block my ip if i started touching the code repository.
but i guess i could roll back the update that is in dispute.
then ask that the updated version be distributed to everyone (see asgs not allowing hacked versions of alleg)

now lets just calculate the probablilty of sucess here...
oh wait, thats 0

also, you have already said that there will be no interim release between now and R3.
it has also been said that R3 will allow you to turn it on and off during the animation.

so what i am supposed to fix is gonig to get fixed anyway, by someone who actually knows C++ and not just BBC BASIC (very simple parts of it like loops and if etc)

so, yeah, i didnt like not being able to do anyhting in the launch animation as a mouse user; so i did something about it - mod my ui file to give me the minimap in it.
you have effectivly disabled my fix for it. (dont say its optonal, see my popup argument)

Edit: for clarification read my next post, this was less coherant

The CORRECT answer to all of this is:

If the community at large doesn't like it, it can be reverted. Nothing is "in stone" and "unchangeable".

What's important are CLEAR, COHERANT, and MATURE discussion points on the topic. (In case you're wondering, there are several in this thread already that I would not include in the above 3 criteria)

/mrgreen.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="mrgreen.gif" />

You guys just dont realise the advantages yet. I have been playing with a mouse since I started to play. This mod makes things SO much easier. Last night alone two bomber runs were stopped because of this. Its finally possible for mouse users to get out of a camp.

I just think you people are looking for something to bitch about.

FAZ Dev team, excellent job. Thanks for all the hard work you put into changing the code.

TB

to clarify: The inability to turn off this launch animation, has basically disabled the only fucntional workaround that I have found. This DOES NOT equalize the mousers and JS users. The request for a fix, was NOT this. While this does level the playing field slightly, but it makes it nearly impossible for the CortGui users to toggle, click and toggle. Was this change approved? it is most definately a gameplay change, as any change to the launch animation HAS been, thus the raving debate over doing anything major.

Dont get me wrong, I love the dev guys, and they work their asses off to make alleg better for us. But please, ask us about this stuff before you do it.

I could take it during the beta tests, but now its just driving me nuts...

<5th grader>i like doing little circles, YEAH!!!</5th grader>

sum it up: please revoke, or give us a toggle, thank you.

EDIT: and TB, i agree it good for campbreaking, but I want to be able to enable and disable it, so that I dont have to do circles when it aint camped.

This does make mouse users and JS users equal. Without it, we have to fly straight of of base and get pwned by a camp or miss the HTT run. Sorry, I'll pass.

If you NEED CortUI so much, just remember if NumPad 0 is toggled or not.

TB

EDIT (to respond to your edit): You dont fly in circles if you dont move the mouse... /doh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":doh:" border="0" alt="doh.gif" />