System X vs XenoTech

Terran · Post by **Terran** » Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:20 pm

lol
p1 i thought nan was supposed to be very ineffective against cruiser hulls? do your numbers include that multiplier or was that changed over the years?

LANS · Post by **LANS** » Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:50 pm

phoenix1 wrote:QUOTE (phoenix1 @ Nov 18 2017, 01:48 AM) wtf that's not even close to being right on either account. The only thing that's correct is that scout does heal more, but something's off lol. Mini3 doesn't deal 3k damage per second, if it did hvy ints would die in a third of a second. Drac hvies have only 800 hp and the minigun modifier vs med hull is .7. It takes longer than .4 seconds to pod a hvy int even with all your guns on them.

Welp, Tek is broken then. Oh well.

Post by **zombywoof** » Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:07 pm

Terran wrote:QUOTE (Terran @ Nov 18 2017, 07:20 AM) lol
p1 i thought nan was supposed to be very ineffective against cruiser hulls? do your numbers include that multiplier or was that changed over the years?

Its modifier is .75 *shrugs*

Mastametz · Post by **Mastametz** » Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:35 pm

It seems incredibly imbalanced to me when a floating tech (nan2) on a starting craft (a scout) is more effective than a 3rd tier ship with 3rd tier weapon plus dmg perk GAs

FIZ · Post by **FIZ** » Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:55 pm

I think the outlier here being that mini-3 Hvy Ints are really, really, good at killing scouts.

Archangelus · Post by **Archangelus** » Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:58 pm

Sheriff Metz wrote:QUOTE (Sheriff Metz @ Nov 18 2017, 06:35 PM) It seems incredibly imbalanced to me when a floating tech (nan2) on a starting craft (a scout) is more effective than a 3rd tier ship with 3rd tier weapon plus dmg perk GAs

Well that depends mostly on how you think alleg should be played.

To me it seems pretty balanced, if you had full tac, things would´ve gonne very differently.

Post by **zombywoof** » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:07 pm

Sheriff Metz wrote:QUOTE (Sheriff Metz @ Nov 18 2017, 12:35 PM) It seems incredibly imbalanced to me when a floating tech (nan2) on a starting craft (a scout) is more effective than a 3rd tier ship with 3rd tier weapon plus dmg perk GAs

It seems incredibly asinine to me to compare the effectiveness of nan2 and mini4 while also ignoring the context of the fact that we're talking about its interaction with a ship that costs $4000 apiece to launch and requires some 70k in techbase and research costs to get.

Mastametz · Post by **Mastametz** » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:11 pm

It's not just capships. Nan2 is overly powerful on reg bomb runs as well vs adv tech. nan2 has ever been the single most influential floating tech in the game (Since it's essentially the only adv tech that floats)

Terran · Post by **Terran** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:52 am

Sheriff Metz wrote:QUOTE (Sheriff Metz @ Nov 18 2017, 05:11 PM) It's not just capships. Nan2 is overly powerful on reg bomb runs as well vs adv tech. nan2 has ever been the single most influential floating tech in the game (Since it's essentially the only adv tech that floats)

if nan2 is adv tech, what is nan3? super-adv tech?

minigun · Post by **minigun** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:06 am

I think we should 3 nans on the tf heavy scout instead of 2