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Broodwich wrote:QUOTE (Broodwich @ Aug 28 2010, 02:46 AM) you know orion you could have just used mastas actual pictures, it would have proved the same point

ROFL

I thought that was him, I just googled 'angry dwarf'

madpeople wrote:QUOTE (madpeople @ Aug 28 2010, 08:03 AM) Because KG thought it was just a cheap empty gift from TE so TE can say he gave KG something when KG had been asking for the keys.
Now KG is asking who actually runs the community - is it TE like KG thought, or would KG have gotten the keys he wants had he taken the ZL position because as TE says "the ZLs run the community".

This is the $#@!ing stupidest @#(! I have ever heard. Where the hell do you get your information? North Korea? TE had nothing to do with offering kage ZL and if you think that for a second just stop posting at all and maybe log in and play the $#@!ing game. Do you even play? Or do you just post on the forums with your stupid and WRONG opinions. You should be dragged outside and publicly flogged because this is the third thread in a row I have seen you come and post your utter brand of stupidity. I know you can't resist the temptation of involving yourself in what the big boys are doing, but part of the reason there is this "divide" in Allegiance currently is because of idiots like you spreading your nonsense to those who don't know any better. For a long time I have lobbied the other ZL's to hold people who post such farcical novels as you accountable because really at the end of the day you are either a liar, or some sort of drama spewing idiot. Sadly they have not as of yet approved my requests, so I am forced to read nonsense like this (Except in the CC zone at least) but hopefully they will all read this post, know the truth and see there is good reason for what I suggest.

QUOTE You may not see why they need answering, but KG does. Saying they don't need answering achieves nothing and only serves to annoy KG for very little reason.
He came here seeking clarification on some important issues and posted his request in an organised manner. You can either help him if you can, or not post here if you can't.[/quote]
Wow I had to insert an edit because you are even stupider than I first thought. Which frankly is an accomplishment Madp. As you can see in the carefully concealed quote below I OFFERED TO RETRIEVE HIM THE ANSWERS HE SEEKS. Unless you are a $#@!wit like yourself too busy trying to stir up drama to read you would see that counts as helping him. The height of comprimise is telling him how he has no basis for his questions but saying I will get the answers anyway. Based off your continued idiocy you don't deserve to post in important topics anymore if you ask me (of course this goes for many people but you made the foolish mistake of quoting me) as you seem to be doing nothing but stirring up drama.

QUOTE If you were really interested in answers to this question I would surely get them for you. I would go to the ZL forum, post these questions, get all the answers and return them to you[/quote]

TL;DR TE had nothing to do with offering kage a ZL spot (ZL's as always) and kage's reasons for turning it down were less to do with admins and more to do with "other" developers (for which he can't be blamed I supposed)

A shining example of how leadership should communicate.

pkk wrote:QUOTE (pkk @ Aug 28 2010, 04:54 AM) It all ended up with some wired goals (which get removed automatically, if they get reached or expire) on the front page.

They expire monthly, because those are TE's monthly expenses. You know perfectly well that the donation questions have been answered.

TB

So 3 pages already and still no direct answers ... Like MP pointed out, I wish this forum allowed to moderate my own topics.

May be make this topic read-only to everyone else ?

To everyone else out there, plz stop commenting or starting drama, I just want answers , not comments or your opinion.

Actually I don't want your opinion if you're not in charge. Sorry. Feel free to open new topics about each question if you want to comment/discuss them; I'll be happy to participate there.

To whoever is in charge:

If you don't want to answer my questions, just say so (and why too would be appreciated).

If you don't want to answer them in public, just PM me the responses (and I'll be happy to make them publicly available unless you have a valid and reasonable reason not too).

And Plz stop trying to guess what I'm thinking or want. You're all wrong.
I have important decisions to make. They're lot of 'foundation' money and a new company and a very big company involved. This explicitly needs to be publicly discussed for (future) legal reasons. And I've a big NDA so this is all I can say for now.

I just want these answers. And the deadline is in 10 days.

KGJV wrote:QUOTE (KGJV @ Aug 28 2010, 12:47 PM) This explicitly needs to be publicly discussed for (future) legal reasons. And I've a big NDA so this is all I can say for now.

Does your NDA permit you discuss the "legal" reasons why there is a question about the community voting on hiders?

I'm not in charge here. I wouldn't particularly say that any one individual is in charge here. The ZLs and TE/TB are as much in charge as anyone else so I guess I can have a stab at answering these questions.

KGJV wrote:QUOTE (KGJV @ Aug 28 2010, 01:37 AM) They're simple:
Q1 - why can't I (and others) have the keys ? (keys= dns keys, daily backup of this site, daily backup of asgs db and css db later).

I don't see why you're so desperate to get the keys to the Allegiance hardware but to answer your general question others do have the keys (to the best of my knowledge).

KGJV wrote:QUOTE (KGJV @ Aug 28 2010, 01:37 AM) Q2 - what are the official duties and role of Dev ZL ? (I want a detailed post/wiki about this)

The Zone Leads lead their zones. Therefore the Dev Zone Lead leads the dev zone.

KGJV wrote:QUOTE (KGJV @ Aug 28 2010, 01:37 AM) Q3 - Are you willing to have a public debate (and a vote) about removing hiders ?

More than happy. You do know that you'd lose though right? And I'm speaking as someone who is utterly ambivalent about hiders and doesn't use one apart from the official ones which exist due to limitations in ASGS.

KGJV wrote:QUOTE (KGJV @ Aug 28 2010, 01:37 AM) Q4 - Are you willing to have a public debate (and a vote) about how ZLs are chosen and how long they stay in office ?

Sure. I think that most people don't give a flying crap how this site and the game are run.

KGJV wrote:QUOTE (KGJV @ Aug 28 2010, 01:37 AM) eventually a more general debate about how the community is organised and managed.

Sure, see above except that I think people give even less of a crap.

KGJV wrote:QUOTE (KGJV @ Aug 28 2010, 01:37 AM) Q5 - Are you willing to have a public debate (and a vote) about not letting Alleg die because a small but loud minority doesn't want the required drastic changes ? We can eventually extend this debate (and a vote) to splitting the game and the community into 2 distinct groups, each going its own way.

Why do you need a debate and vote about splitting the community? Feel free to start a post here about your ideas and if people support you then you of all people Kage are capable of starting a new community. The vote doesn't really need to happen in that case.

KGJV wrote:QUOTE (KGJV @ Aug 28 2010, 01:37 AM) Q6 - Why are there hidden/private forums here ? Why ZLs debates and discussions aren't public ?

Because, and you'll be amazed at this one, sometimes we aren't terribly nice about everyone who posts on the forums. Wow Rav, you mean that the ZLs aren't perfect humans with no negative emotions? I mean that very thing. It's good that we have somewhere where we can blow off steam if needs be and do a minor amount of arranging without worrying about stepping on someone's toes.

Also, as you can now see, you post a topic and get 3 pages of replies of which 2 and a half are spam and idiocy.

KGJV wrote:QUOTE (KGJV @ Aug 28 2010, 01:37 AM) Q7 - Can we get a detailed description(hardware, OS, software, ownership, costs) of the systems used to run Alleg and support this community along with an explanation of why they're built like this ? (why this medieval forum software for instance!!!)

I'm really not qualified to answer this.

Now I've answered your questions as far as I can. Can I ask you one?

Why are you so interested in getting access to the various FAO servers when you're making Allegiance 2?

I also have a question: why do you want to split the community? What would be Allegiance if another group of people decided to create a fork and modify it?
What is the point? Would it be another game, very different game? What is this project?

Because if your idea is very good and a lot of player agree, I'm sure we can improve the game to make it better for anyone. I want to know why some people want to change Allegiance and what it would become. But presently, I see nothing that explains that to me.

+1. Sorry, posting in this thread because some mysterious statements have been made. What gives?

I am in charge of this community. I already answered your questions and I will also accept Raveens answers above, as my spokesperson. I outsource the responsibilities for managing the servers to other people and you will have to contact them for any server specifics. If you need help getting in touch with the server people please direct yourself to our 24/7 Helpline. If you have any legal issues, please run them through our lawyers, spideycw and Mastametz.

If you are not going to accept that I am in charge of this community, please provide sufficient evidence to the contrary. Otherwise, I believe your questions have been sufficiently answered in the time frame that you set forth.

Thank you for doing business with the freeallegiance community. I wish you luck.