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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:29 pm
by Corrosion
Broodwich wrote:QUOTE (Broodwich @ Oct 3 2009, 06:15 PM) the ic fig is the only model you can actually hit with all your guns anymore
Unless you are dreg.

Voted yes to minepacks so it would actually e possible to bomb them unless they set up proper probes.

Voted no to scale increase, those gunmounts are enough of a pain for me, it balances the smaller scale out from my experience.

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:10 am
by javaswiller
Increasing the bios fig size only makes the almighty intercepter that much stronger.

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:59 am
by IB_
Bios Fighters are superior to Bios Ints, mostly because bios int gunmounts are worse than the old patty gunmounts.

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:48 am
by HSharp
IB_ wrote:QUOTE (IB_ @ Oct 5 2009, 10:59 AM) Bios Fighters are superior to Bios Ints, mostly because bios int gunmounts are worse than the old patty gunmounts.
But when your in a Bios int without a heavy cloak you can literally fly circles around other ships

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:54 am
by Broodwich
not you can just outrun and accelerate them. also you can do this with a bios fig as well

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:04 am
by Adept
Could somebody dig up the numbers on how much the bios fig was shrunk in Dark Nebulae? Looking at them and trying to think back, it seems like more than the 10% tweaks CC has done.

/edit apparently not then. :doh:

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:49 pm
by Vlymoxyd
With these poll results, I'd probably try raising the scale by 5% rather than 10% and see how it turns out.

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:55 pm
by Papsmear
BIOS having Prox mines was not in the game originally but added by Spunkmeyer I believe to give them some chance of defending their opening conns and the ability to mount a defense against early bomb rushes. For those who don't know or don't recall, until prox mines were added to BIOS basic fighters they were the easiest faction to beat at the start of the game by far.
We used to see a BIOS game last 8 to 10 minutes before their starbase was destroyed all the time.

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:05 pm
by pkk
Thx to Adept:

Changes on BIOS Fig from DN_000001 to DN_000460:

Changes on BIOS Fighter:
Allowed to use ProxMinesIncreased Pack size from 1 to 2Fuel increased from 8/10/12 to 11/14/16 (Std/Enh/Adv) (because they carry the weighty HvyCloak?)Reduced mass by 3/6/9 (Std/Enh/Adv) (like BIOS Int 2/4/6 (Lt/Std/Hvy), because these ships carry HvyCloak)

Now to another interesting change:

HvyCloak:
HvyCloak 1 mass reduced from 10 to 8HvyCloak 2 mass reduced from 10 to 6

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:56 pm
by spideycw
So bios fighter was always tiny?