Tech tree and vehicles
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Arson_Fire
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I originally came on here to post My idea for tech treez.. BUT Az I am reading I would like to adress the statementz made so far.. ANd my tech tree Ideaz will also explain more. First WHy no exitting and entering Vehiclez.. THIS iz A MUST option.. AZ if Someone ditched their Sweet IC hvy MECH and U find it.. U hop in and kan take it to IC in their own Mech...THIS is SUCH A MUST.. ADDZ huge Ammountz of flavor to the game.. To explain and talk about the GUY who hopz out and snipez..aka NOT helping the team.. I will have to go into SOme of the rest of MY ideaz.... First P.O.D's.."Planet-side Operatives in Distress..Yes I thought of a kewl acronym for it that workz...
First OFF U have to get the IDEA THAT podz do NOT DIE Unless Killed.. PODZ are simply YOUR character without a vehicle or a suit.. ALL Infantry will have a suit that providez armor.. AKA U have 3 setz of "life" to worry about.... Your "Health" (( which iz your POD basically)) ITZ your trooper with NO infantry suit on and in no vehicle..Takez perhaps 3 to 4 bulletz to kill a P.O.D.. ANd PODz only have a limited weapon array..AKA a Machine gun ((weakest in the game)), A hand gun.. and perhapz a limited suplly of gernadez..There for makin PODz not useless but NOT very effective...
Az Your second "health" iz the "Armor" class... ALL Battle SUITZ((aka INFANTRY)) MECHZ Vehicles and Stationz have a certian ammount of armor (( note only Your POD will have health not vehiclez and mechz and stationz)) Example here for troopz.. YOU choose the "Scout" Infantry Combat Suit- AKA U have great Speed and mobility..A LARGE RADAR rng..A Machine Gun (( probably the same one U have when a pod)) a hand gun and limited grenadez.. Along with the ablility to lay MINE traps or whatever the equivilent iz in the game.. U would have 2 Helath meterz .. (( and this iz a rough draft of it )) AKA Life/100%-Armor/100%[310] this would mean.. U have 310 Lt Armor POINTZ and 100% health.... NOW In game U take fire from enemy unitz.. YOUR ARMOR.. NOT your health would go down (( and without NANNAGE would not go back up just like in allegiance)).. WHEN YOUR armor reachez 0 YOur SUIT popz and YOU are now A P.O.D.. AKA about 2 shotz and YUR DUST.. YOU also would lose Mobility, LOSE your RADAR COMPLETELY....(( NOW this totally doesnt take into account Shieldz..BUT for this example say we r USING a BELTER trooper))
Your Third "health" meter would be shieldz... Just like in allegiance when NOT being shot they will slowly regenerate.. so it would be Life/100%-Armor/100%[200]-Sheilds/100%[150] on a normal SCOUT INFANTRY COMBAT SUIT ((or Sicz az Im kallin em heh)) When Your shieldz are taken down completely U start to lose ARMOR pointz Unless U get out of the line of fire.. then U kan build back UP your SHIELD pointz.. BUT YOUR ARMOR will not go back UP unless U get NANNAGE.
With this System PODz wouldnt be totally useless JUST very very hard to do anything with.. UNLESS U allow Vehicle swapping which would ROXXOR..az.. U get blown out of your Tank.. U put up a nice fight IN your INfantry SUIT but it too getz POPPED.. NOW YUR a pod.. BUT U notice a HALF alive SCOUT bike of theirs layin down... U kombat roll over to it HOP on and peel dust away form them leading the foolz back to an ambush. >;b Makez Being podded SUCK a hole lot less.. and ADDZ a HUGE ammount of FLAVOR to the game... And there iz a way to keep PODz from bein to much.. U simply MAKE it Impossible for them to do any "capturing" They are completely Useless ON "haxxing" into enemy basez etc.. Just able to fight a little and snag vehiclez with no pilotz in them.. ...
The entire POD system would only work on the Prinicple THAT BEFORE U EVER LEFT base.. U would HAVE to choose a COMBAT SUIT.. BUT I have already worked this threw my Brain azwell....(( Alleg fuxxin Up on me givin me alot of time for this.. BTW Ill post The dreg SCOUT bike.. TANK and A few gun concepts soon)) All Factionz WILL STart with 2 available COMBAT Suitz.. Your SIC heh and TIC heh.. Scout Infantry COMbat SUIT..OR your Trooper Infantry Combat SUIT.. (( trooper would be less radar rng Less mobility BUT Higher armor HIgher Shieldz and Perhapz a more deadly gun..(( the 3rd and more powerful gun could be faction specific.. AKA a NICE lazer for TF .. meyhapz a grenade launcher for IC etc etc..)) This way U would alwayz leave base IN SOME combat SUIT.. And eventually be scrapped down to your P.O.D. and have to return for another suit (( When U enter a home base U automatically get refreshed IN your LAST COmbat SUIT)) While Thikin ALL this UP I also kame UP with a IDEA to PUT RIPCORDING in the game.. heh..
A Teleport PLATFORM.. U have to send a constructor to make one.. BUT IT actually BUILDZ a platform anywhere on the map.. THEN when U are in base or on a PLATFORM of your teamz.. IT bringz UP a mini map with all the Other tele platformz U have made and U kan instantly transport to one of them.. This would help gettin to the Battle FRONT easier and add tele'z to the game.. IT also ADDZ for the idea OF TP2.. AKA a SCOUT kan PLANT a Teleport PROBE AND if YOu have YOur team waitin at a home base or a teleport platform.. WHEN the TP iz ACtive U kan all Teleport there just like in alleg.. ANd just like IN aleg IT will have a time limit nefore it activatez adn a lilfetime before it disappearz....
These are just ideaz I h ave been kickin around..
Tech Tree'z
Command Compound ((AKA Garrison))
Scout Unit
Trooper Unit
((Prereq for all COnstructorz))
Tele-
outPost
radar
Troop Barracks
Sup Center
EXP Center
TAC Center
Vehicle YARD
Stationary Turret (( A manned turret with a nice DMg put out.. BUT requirez a constructor))
ScoutCycle (( Your Scout Cycle.. aka Scout Car whatever...Komez free
ADV ScoutCycle
HVY SCOUTcycle
Troop Transport (( Since this will be so MUCH in the game for winning it needz to be in GARR like Bomber.. AND a Troop transport will have 4 manable gunz and a nice armor array))
Troop Barracks
(( A place for upraging troop ONLY stuff))
Lt Armor (( all Troop unitz will use LT armor))
Lt Shieldz (( All troop unitz will use this azwell az Scout Bikez))
Hand GUn (( upgradez the Hand gun for trooperz and PODZ))
Machine GUn ((Upgradez the Machine gun for trooperz))
ADV SCOUT UNIT (( upgradez scout duh aka more armor more radar.. More ammo..more shieldz..more mobility))
HVYSCOUT UNIT (( upgradez adv duh))
ADV Troop Tansport (( Carry more troopz.. 6 gunz-AND better armor etc)) (req a TECH base))
HVY Troop Transport..(( 8 GUN mountz a FORWARD GUN mount for pilot-- better armor etc )) (REQ TECH base and Vehicle yard)
(( notice how Puttin the TT uupgradez IN here makez U have to use your Barrackz and YOUR trooperz >;b))
SUp Center
Fighter MECH Unit ((FMU >;b)) Usez Lt Amor Class Like trooperz suitz..And LT Shieldz BUT alot more of both))
FMU Gun 1 (9 whatever gun U deside.. and U kan make it to where U actually get a choice of which gunz to mount where on mechz >;b))
FMU gun 2 ((example)) gattlin
FMU gun 3 example- disruptor
FMU GUN 4
Jetpack 2/3 (( FMU will have a jump pack heh))
Combat jeep (( a combat Unit thatz not a mech for SUP)) (( Light,with shieldz-great manuverabilty limitted fire power))
jeep Turret 2/3
Missle Turret (( for jeep only or maybe fore jeep and TT))
FMU Galvonicz (( yes BASE KILLIN GUNZ heh heh heheheheh))
MRM DumbFirez (( a dumbfire like missle for the mechz))
LRM Seekerz (( a seeker like missle that firez 2 at once
Missle Track
Misse DMG
Armor (( like hull GA))
Teleport time
Mech Agility
((this next IZ trooper only stuff that popz up in sup))
Mine Pack (( for scout troopers))
Grenades (( upgrade or just grenade usable on troopers)
Granade launcher
JetPack 2/3
(req Troop Barracks) Supremecy COmbat Unit (( This trooper Unit Iz the ONLY one that KAN use the JetPack besidez the SCOUT- kan Also Use Mine pack And Grenade Launcher))
EXP COmplex
Interceptor MECH (( less mavuverablity then the FIG az I think the INT type mechz in this game should be SLOW with alor of firepower)) (( Int mechz WILL use MED armor LIKE Tankz and HVY class vehiclez BUT HAVE NO SHIELDZ.. JUST hard armor heh))
EMU gun 1 ((aka MINI GUN))
EMU GUn 2 (( Flack kannon with spread shotz))
EMU Gun3 (( A SINGLE SHOT "Knock DOWN" HVY DMG SLOW SHOT"))
EMU GUN 4 (( emp kannon ((killz shieldz and BASE shieldz heh))
Small Tank (( 2 man Tank vehicle...Low Armor and NO SHIELDZ))
Tank (( upgrade of small tank with 3 people aka 2 turretz.. BUT still NO shieldz))
Tank Cannon 2/3
Tank Turret 2/3
Bullet DMG
Mech Agility
Staion Hull
Station Shields
Ballistic Missle (( RAPID fire LOW dmg missle for INT mechz))
((troop only stuff from exp))
Pulse RADAR (( like the PP for Scout and EXP combat troopers)) >;b))
Mortar Cannon
Rocket Launcher
Chain Cannon
(REQ Troop Barracks)Expansiion COmbat SUIt (( Haz GREAT armor and NO shieldz az itz in EXP..A HVY trooper WITH hvy GUNZ.. SLOW moving with LOW radar..))
Tactical Laboritory
Tactical Mech Unit ((TMU)) (( HAZ a cloaking device.. IZ fast and Manuverable with LOW armor LOW shieldz -- and LOW dmg gunz, IZ small IN SIZE az well.. aka ..KITFOX.. KAN mount the MECH JUmp PACK))
TMU Gun 1 ((aka SNiper))
TMU gun 2 (( Util))
TMU Gun 3 (( and ACTUAL Sniper like rifle for a mech.. LIKE the Gauss gun In mech assault))
XRM Hunter missle (( Long range HVY dmg missle))
XRM Ballistic ((Long Range Version OF the Ballistic missle..RAPID fire LT dmg))
Cloak 2/3
vehicle Shields
Mech nrgy
Mech SIg
tactical Sppeder (( Tac Vehicle KLOAKZ iz mega FAST with a pilot.. and a seat for one more trooper-- Mountz forward gun but with limitted dmg..More for sneakin in and droppin off the trooper on the back who haz a BOMB preferrably >;b))
(req tactical LAB)) Tactical Combat Trooper- Low Armor LOW shields trooper with a CLOAK
((trooper gear))
Trooper cloak 2/3
Trap (( a stationary drone turret with trooper gun dmg))( usable only by Tac trooperz and scouts))
Sniper Rifle (( scope and all baby just make head shotz do alot more dmg >;b))
Tactical Bomb (( a timed or remote controlled bomb droppable by Tactical troopz))
Emp Bomb (( same concept except it just ineruptz ((aka HOLDZ in a shock feild for a time limit)) mechz and Vehiclez))
Vehicle Yard
This iz a Station FOR Vehiclez only .. AKA YOUR HVY stuff.. AZ I havent reallt thought out all the HVY vehiclez and such have at this all you want.... I waz pondering sayin make this the platform for your Flyin shipz.. BUT U kould JUST make another sattion az a "Air Support" station..
HVY TANK.. Huge HULL HUGE shieldz HUGE cannon 4 turrets..
well this IZ what I waz throwin around IN my head today..
First OFF U have to get the IDEA THAT podz do NOT DIE Unless Killed.. PODZ are simply YOUR character without a vehicle or a suit.. ALL Infantry will have a suit that providez armor.. AKA U have 3 setz of "life" to worry about.... Your "Health" (( which iz your POD basically)) ITZ your trooper with NO infantry suit on and in no vehicle..Takez perhaps 3 to 4 bulletz to kill a P.O.D.. ANd PODz only have a limited weapon array..AKA a Machine gun ((weakest in the game)), A hand gun.. and perhapz a limited suplly of gernadez..There for makin PODz not useless but NOT very effective...
Az Your second "health" iz the "Armor" class... ALL Battle SUITZ((aka INFANTRY)) MECHZ Vehicles and Stationz have a certian ammount of armor (( note only Your POD will have health not vehiclez and mechz and stationz)) Example here for troopz.. YOU choose the "Scout" Infantry Combat Suit- AKA U have great Speed and mobility..A LARGE RADAR rng..A Machine Gun (( probably the same one U have when a pod)) a hand gun and limited grenadez.. Along with the ablility to lay MINE traps or whatever the equivilent iz in the game.. U would have 2 Helath meterz .. (( and this iz a rough draft of it )) AKA Life/100%-Armor/100%[310] this would mean.. U have 310 Lt Armor POINTZ and 100% health.... NOW In game U take fire from enemy unitz.. YOUR ARMOR.. NOT your health would go down (( and without NANNAGE would not go back up just like in allegiance)).. WHEN YOUR armor reachez 0 YOur SUIT popz and YOU are now A P.O.D.. AKA about 2 shotz and YUR DUST.. YOU also would lose Mobility, LOSE your RADAR COMPLETELY....(( NOW this totally doesnt take into account Shieldz..BUT for this example say we r USING a BELTER trooper))
Your Third "health" meter would be shieldz... Just like in allegiance when NOT being shot they will slowly regenerate.. so it would be Life/100%-Armor/100%[200]-Sheilds/100%[150] on a normal SCOUT INFANTRY COMBAT SUIT ((or Sicz az Im kallin em heh)) When Your shieldz are taken down completely U start to lose ARMOR pointz Unless U get out of the line of fire.. then U kan build back UP your SHIELD pointz.. BUT YOUR ARMOR will not go back UP unless U get NANNAGE.
With this System PODz wouldnt be totally useless JUST very very hard to do anything with.. UNLESS U allow Vehicle swapping which would ROXXOR..az.. U get blown out of your Tank.. U put up a nice fight IN your INfantry SUIT but it too getz POPPED.. NOW YUR a pod.. BUT U notice a HALF alive SCOUT bike of theirs layin down... U kombat roll over to it HOP on and peel dust away form them leading the foolz back to an ambush. >;b Makez Being podded SUCK a hole lot less.. and ADDZ a HUGE ammount of FLAVOR to the game... And there iz a way to keep PODz from bein to much.. U simply MAKE it Impossible for them to do any "capturing" They are completely Useless ON "haxxing" into enemy basez etc.. Just able to fight a little and snag vehiclez with no pilotz in them.. ...
The entire POD system would only work on the Prinicple THAT BEFORE U EVER LEFT base.. U would HAVE to choose a COMBAT SUIT.. BUT I have already worked this threw my Brain azwell....(( Alleg fuxxin Up on me givin me alot of time for this.. BTW Ill post The dreg SCOUT bike.. TANK and A few gun concepts soon)) All Factionz WILL STart with 2 available COMBAT Suitz.. Your SIC heh and TIC heh.. Scout Infantry COMbat SUIT..OR your Trooper Infantry Combat SUIT.. (( trooper would be less radar rng Less mobility BUT Higher armor HIgher Shieldz and Perhapz a more deadly gun..(( the 3rd and more powerful gun could be faction specific.. AKA a NICE lazer for TF .. meyhapz a grenade launcher for IC etc etc..)) This way U would alwayz leave base IN SOME combat SUIT.. And eventually be scrapped down to your P.O.D. and have to return for another suit (( When U enter a home base U automatically get refreshed IN your LAST COmbat SUIT)) While Thikin ALL this UP I also kame UP with a IDEA to PUT RIPCORDING in the game.. heh..
A Teleport PLATFORM.. U have to send a constructor to make one.. BUT IT actually BUILDZ a platform anywhere on the map.. THEN when U are in base or on a PLATFORM of your teamz.. IT bringz UP a mini map with all the Other tele platformz U have made and U kan instantly transport to one of them.. This would help gettin to the Battle FRONT easier and add tele'z to the game.. IT also ADDZ for the idea OF TP2.. AKA a SCOUT kan PLANT a Teleport PROBE AND if YOu have YOur team waitin at a home base or a teleport platform.. WHEN the TP iz ACtive U kan all Teleport there just like in alleg.. ANd just like IN aleg IT will have a time limit nefore it activatez adn a lilfetime before it disappearz....
These are just ideaz I h ave been kickin around..
Tech Tree'z
Command Compound ((AKA Garrison))
Scout Unit
Trooper Unit
((Prereq for all COnstructorz))
Tele-
outPost
radar
Troop Barracks
Sup Center
EXP Center
TAC Center
Vehicle YARD
Stationary Turret (( A manned turret with a nice DMg put out.. BUT requirez a constructor))
ScoutCycle (( Your Scout Cycle.. aka Scout Car whatever...Komez free
ADV ScoutCycle
HVY SCOUTcycle
Troop Transport (( Since this will be so MUCH in the game for winning it needz to be in GARR like Bomber.. AND a Troop transport will have 4 manable gunz and a nice armor array))
Troop Barracks
(( A place for upraging troop ONLY stuff))
Lt Armor (( all Troop unitz will use LT armor))
Lt Shieldz (( All troop unitz will use this azwell az Scout Bikez))
Hand GUn (( upgradez the Hand gun for trooperz and PODZ))
Machine GUn ((Upgradez the Machine gun for trooperz))
ADV SCOUT UNIT (( upgradez scout duh aka more armor more radar.. More ammo..more shieldz..more mobility))
HVYSCOUT UNIT (( upgradez adv duh))
ADV Troop Tansport (( Carry more troopz.. 6 gunz-AND better armor etc)) (req a TECH base))
HVY Troop Transport..(( 8 GUN mountz a FORWARD GUN mount for pilot-- better armor etc )) (REQ TECH base and Vehicle yard)
(( notice how Puttin the TT uupgradez IN here makez U have to use your Barrackz and YOUR trooperz >;b))
SUp Center
Fighter MECH Unit ((FMU >;b)) Usez Lt Amor Class Like trooperz suitz..And LT Shieldz BUT alot more of both))
FMU Gun 1 (9 whatever gun U deside.. and U kan make it to where U actually get a choice of which gunz to mount where on mechz >;b))
FMU gun 2 ((example)) gattlin
FMU gun 3 example- disruptor
FMU GUN 4
Jetpack 2/3 (( FMU will have a jump pack heh))
Combat jeep (( a combat Unit thatz not a mech for SUP)) (( Light,with shieldz-great manuverabilty limitted fire power))
jeep Turret 2/3
Missle Turret (( for jeep only or maybe fore jeep and TT))
FMU Galvonicz (( yes BASE KILLIN GUNZ heh heh heheheheh))
MRM DumbFirez (( a dumbfire like missle for the mechz))
LRM Seekerz (( a seeker like missle that firez 2 at once
Missle Track
Misse DMG
Armor (( like hull GA))
Teleport time
Mech Agility
((this next IZ trooper only stuff that popz up in sup))
Mine Pack (( for scout troopers))
Grenades (( upgrade or just grenade usable on troopers)
Granade launcher
JetPack 2/3
(req Troop Barracks) Supremecy COmbat Unit (( This trooper Unit Iz the ONLY one that KAN use the JetPack besidez the SCOUT- kan Also Use Mine pack And Grenade Launcher))
EXP COmplex
Interceptor MECH (( less mavuverablity then the FIG az I think the INT type mechz in this game should be SLOW with alor of firepower)) (( Int mechz WILL use MED armor LIKE Tankz and HVY class vehiclez BUT HAVE NO SHIELDZ.. JUST hard armor heh))
EMU gun 1 ((aka MINI GUN))
EMU GUn 2 (( Flack kannon with spread shotz))
EMU Gun3 (( A SINGLE SHOT "Knock DOWN" HVY DMG SLOW SHOT"))
EMU GUN 4 (( emp kannon ((killz shieldz and BASE shieldz heh))
Small Tank (( 2 man Tank vehicle...Low Armor and NO SHIELDZ))
Tank (( upgrade of small tank with 3 people aka 2 turretz.. BUT still NO shieldz))
Tank Cannon 2/3
Tank Turret 2/3
Bullet DMG
Mech Agility
Staion Hull
Station Shields
Ballistic Missle (( RAPID fire LOW dmg missle for INT mechz))
((troop only stuff from exp))
Pulse RADAR (( like the PP for Scout and EXP combat troopers)) >;b))
Mortar Cannon
Rocket Launcher
Chain Cannon
(REQ Troop Barracks)Expansiion COmbat SUIt (( Haz GREAT armor and NO shieldz az itz in EXP..A HVY trooper WITH hvy GUNZ.. SLOW moving with LOW radar..))
Tactical Laboritory
Tactical Mech Unit ((TMU)) (( HAZ a cloaking device.. IZ fast and Manuverable with LOW armor LOW shieldz -- and LOW dmg gunz, IZ small IN SIZE az well.. aka ..KITFOX.. KAN mount the MECH JUmp PACK))
TMU Gun 1 ((aka SNiper))
TMU gun 2 (( Util))
TMU Gun 3 (( and ACTUAL Sniper like rifle for a mech.. LIKE the Gauss gun In mech assault))
XRM Hunter missle (( Long range HVY dmg missle))
XRM Ballistic ((Long Range Version OF the Ballistic missle..RAPID fire LT dmg))
Cloak 2/3
vehicle Shields
Mech nrgy
Mech SIg
tactical Sppeder (( Tac Vehicle KLOAKZ iz mega FAST with a pilot.. and a seat for one more trooper-- Mountz forward gun but with limitted dmg..More for sneakin in and droppin off the trooper on the back who haz a BOMB preferrably >;b))
(req tactical LAB)) Tactical Combat Trooper- Low Armor LOW shields trooper with a CLOAK
((trooper gear))
Trooper cloak 2/3
Trap (( a stationary drone turret with trooper gun dmg))( usable only by Tac trooperz and scouts))
Sniper Rifle (( scope and all baby just make head shotz do alot more dmg >;b))
Tactical Bomb (( a timed or remote controlled bomb droppable by Tactical troopz))
Emp Bomb (( same concept except it just ineruptz ((aka HOLDZ in a shock feild for a time limit)) mechz and Vehiclez))
Vehicle Yard
This iz a Station FOR Vehiclez only .. AKA YOUR HVY stuff.. AZ I havent reallt thought out all the HVY vehiclez and such have at this all you want.... I waz pondering sayin make this the platform for your Flyin shipz.. BUT U kould JUST make another sattion az a "Air Support" station..
HVY TANK.. Huge HULL HUGE shieldz HUGE cannon 4 turrets..
well this IZ what I waz throwin around IN my head today..
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Well I kan come up with new namez for it all I waz just puttin it like that SO U kould see where it related etc.. BUT I kan work On the new stuff tonight... My over all waz getin MY POD point across.. MY teleport IDEA and my tech tree ideaz.. I will refine it later though.. Besidez that what do ya think..
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I'm thinking about vehicle tech trees.
I hope we will have land and air craft.
I'm thinking about vehicle tech trees.
I hope we will have land and air craft.
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I also had a ephinany last night.. I think that the TANK should not go in EXP az the INt like mechz are already slow and powefull.. Perhapz a FAST speeder like craft that kan "intercept " and spot @#(! while the hvy mechz are for the powerfull take ove rheh...
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finnbryant
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sorry for reviving this old thread, but i was just reading back and thought an important point was missing, there must be an effective way for ground units to attack air units (or the air units would have to be really weak to compensate, and that wouldn't be fun)
if anyone here has played UT2004 you'll know the AVRiL (Anti-Vehicular Rocket Launcher), which is how they dealt with the same problem. The raptor is a very fast and quite powerful hover-heli like vehicle, but with weak armor. If the avril didn't exist it would dominate the field.
[explanation of AVRiL] (skip if you know already)
The avril is just a rocket launcher, but the rockets are slow (just a little bit faster than a raptor) and very powerful, 2 can take out a raptor, the rockets have extremely good agility (you cannot out-maneuver one!) but they have no on-board homing system, so the gun must perform the job for them and relay the data, this means that you must keep locked on to the vehicle your shooting at until the rocket hits. the avril has a long reload time, meaning that there is rarely more than one rocket in the air at once. the raptor pilot will be warned of a lock on.
The avril is infantry only and is quite common, the overall effect is that raptors can fly about without fear of sudden destruction, and they are an effective support vehicle because if the enemy is busy fighting other ground troops they cant stop to guide the rocket. but they cannot fight on their own (except with a noob in a tank, who cant shoot them but is scared to come out) also, if the pilot is skilled, they can kill whoever fired the avril or get out of line of sight with the avril, cutting off the homing system. they can bail as well because there is generally enough warning.
avril can lock onto any vehicle but ground vehicles are strong and slow enough that other weapons are preferable.
[end of explanation]
basically, if we make something similar, then we can make more powerful air vehicles without unbalancing the game. (and give infantry a use)
it should be possible to lock vehicles, but you cant do it in the heat of combat (takes focus and time, which you don't have when fighting), enemies cant enter them, but friendlies can. useful if you need to leave your scout. you cant lock a stolen vehicle. this would let people do the good old, "run him over with his own tank" but would stop too much tech stealling.
intresting game mechanic would be that if you steal an enemy vehicle they can then track you until you leave it.
if anyone here has played UT2004 you'll know the AVRiL (Anti-Vehicular Rocket Launcher), which is how they dealt with the same problem. The raptor is a very fast and quite powerful hover-heli like vehicle, but with weak armor. If the avril didn't exist it would dominate the field.
[explanation of AVRiL] (skip if you know already)
The avril is just a rocket launcher, but the rockets are slow (just a little bit faster than a raptor) and very powerful, 2 can take out a raptor, the rockets have extremely good agility (you cannot out-maneuver one!) but they have no on-board homing system, so the gun must perform the job for them and relay the data, this means that you must keep locked on to the vehicle your shooting at until the rocket hits. the avril has a long reload time, meaning that there is rarely more than one rocket in the air at once. the raptor pilot will be warned of a lock on.
The avril is infantry only and is quite common, the overall effect is that raptors can fly about without fear of sudden destruction, and they are an effective support vehicle because if the enemy is busy fighting other ground troops they cant stop to guide the rocket. but they cannot fight on their own (except with a noob in a tank, who cant shoot them but is scared to come out) also, if the pilot is skilled, they can kill whoever fired the avril or get out of line of sight with the avril, cutting off the homing system. they can bail as well because there is generally enough warning.
avril can lock onto any vehicle but ground vehicles are strong and slow enough that other weapons are preferable.
[end of explanation]
basically, if we make something similar, then we can make more powerful air vehicles without unbalancing the game. (and give infantry a use)
it should be possible to lock vehicles, but you cant do it in the heat of combat (takes focus and time, which you don't have when fighting), enemies cant enter them, but friendlies can. useful if you need to leave your scout. you cant lock a stolen vehicle. this would let people do the good old, "run him over with his own tank" but would stop too much tech stealling.
intresting game mechanic would be that if you steal an enemy vehicle they can then track you until you leave it.
Last edited by finnbryant on Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.