Faction: Archangel Empire

jgbaxter · Post by **jgbaxter** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:27 pm

Patties carry probes so why give probes in ints? that's bizare.

And paties are pretty nasty, especially if there will be enh/adv/hvy patties as well.

As for not fitting the theme, well, they fit exactly imho, the pattie is an all purpose defence ship, capable of taking that defence into the enemy home and whoring. It also takes care of the lack of scouts issue, smoothly.

Since they could start with patties and possibly research enh patties, then that's just more nastyness. enh patties would have 4 missiles, and you're looking at a scan of about 1.6k which is pretty decent for a "non-scout" ship, combine that with the pw range/damge perk, you're looking at a pretty nasty ship that carries prox.

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blackrob · Post by **blackrob** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:44 am

Just a minor point: 100 for one burst array, or 200 for two on std patty (or for madp, std int)? If it only comes in packs of ones, then a pattie/int carring say 4 burst arrays (if the pilot wants to find enemy home aleph in one run in IO) can only carry two more items, say both EWS? No extra DF, ammo, or fuel. Just pointing out in case it's not an intended shortcoming of this faction.

rojomojo915 · Post by **rojomojo915** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:08 am

well when u go out in probe scout wut do usually take, cause i dont take ammo or missiles, just probes and a prox or 2, so i dont see it as a disadvantage

barricuda · Post by **barricuda** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:43 am

all good points...

1. pattys will NOT be given start ship...Start ships will be lint and fig
2. pattys WILL be researchable.... garr patty/starbase enh patty/ assault patty (not able to mount nanite)
3. fighters will be able to carry standard ews probes but lints cannot
4. all ships can carry Burst Arrays (int, fig, patty)

** Assault patty will have sml rip ability and able to mount lt cloaking+turret
** HINTS will have a lux (assault hint)version same as giga with +1 extra mini, but at a reduced scan range...blind, but mean

all tech bases will be = Basic ~ advanced ~ Assault

assault grants following;
assault Exp=
Ass Hints (4th mini, redused scan)
Assault Htt ( slight sig drop, increase armor plating )
Particle Rail Cannon ( PE mini type gun that has AOE on shields and hull of ships + lt bases think aoe galv)

Assault Sup=
Ass Fig (higher scan range, increased speeed, increased armor, fired Dual missiles)
XRM ab missile 2
Armageddon mrm (think dumb 3 with hunt 3 tracking)

Assault Tac=
Assault Stealth fig (3 sec rip, each missile rack increased by 2)
Phased Cloaking device ( lowers sig to 50% but at 0 cost to energy)

Assault Starbase=
Assault Patty (sml rip ability and able to mount lt cloaking/Phased cloak+1 turret)
Assault constructor ( armor + shield bonus)
Nano Shielding ( only gives 80% of what hvy/small 3 gives but at 40% faster recharge rate)

Assault Shipyard=
....im stumped....

Revelation Battle Titan = 4 gunners, all sky rip pilot mounted dual skyrip, energy bonus, missile slots? sounds fun!

your thoughts?

madpeople · Post by **madpeople** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:28 am

CHEESE! /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

but i guess it will be expensive to get, people may think its a bit too like RPS, but as long as you don't add mini 4 and 5 etc it should be ok

giga lxys dont have a 4th mini, they rip and have better gun mounts and lead indicators. but 4th gun would be ok for ass int

p.s. don't call hvys "hints" people will flame you

Shizoku · Post by **Shizoku** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:33 am

Interesting nerfs listed. With speed like that, your sf will have a maximum of 112mps. Dreg's enh miners go 120mps.

lol.

No! Come back miner, I bring love!

blackrob · Post by **blackrob** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:42 am

Assault Capitals: Warp drive (ability to tele to sectors w/o TP, carriers, or TP probes)? /mrgreen.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="mrgreen.gif" /> Assault^2 carriers FTW! /wub.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":iluv:" border="0" alt="wub.gif" />

Anyway, I like the assault equipment but I'd say be careful about having a concept that is so strong (I'm thinking MRM Armageddon) and then having to apply a ridiculous nerf.

Will Assault pattie cost money per ship? On the other hand, you did spend all that money to reserach it...

rojomojo915 · Post by **rojomojo915** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:17 am

QUOTE No! Come back miner, I bring love![/quote]

lmao, but i agree w/ mad people on the mine 4 and 5 thing and also i think the Armageddon might be too powerful if u make it like that and with the phased cloaking device, does it lower ur sig to 50% or by 50%

juckto · Post by **juckto** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:08 am

Cheese.

Will assault ships cost money to pilot?

barricuda · Post by **barricuda** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:53 am

well the payload on MEM armagedon may be lowered....aww hell....probly make it = to Hunter 2 to make it fair

assault pattys will cost 250 per ship ( due to its SR ability )

as for riping caps....they need an object to rip to, like a focus point..dont that that would work without a code change