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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:52 pm
by Cortex
Jonan wrote:QUOTE (Jonan @ Jan 17 2007, 09:58 AM) Although I'm new, etc, isn't *ping* more or less equal to seconds from last refresh from server? When it is growing there is only client side state and no fresh reference to server state, meaning he's flying in alternate universe for over a minute at a time. Unlikely playable.
That's what every other game says, but as you might already have noticed, Allegiance is different from other games. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
-- Cort
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:11 pm
by madpeople
yeah, we call latency (ping), lag
and ping, sync
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:49 pm
by Cortex
madpeople wrote:QUOTE (madpeople @ Jan 17 2007, 10:11 PM) yeah, we call latency (ping), lag
and ping, sync
Many use 'ping' as a synonym for (Alleg's) 'lag' value, though. /mrgreen.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="mrgreen.gif" /> Case in point, some posts in this thread.
-- Cort
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:20 pm
by Bunnywabbit
Cortex wrote:QUOTE (Cortex @ Jan 17 2007, 10:49 PM) Many use 'ping' as a synonym for (Alleg's) 'lag' value, though. /mrgreen.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="mrgreen.gif" />
-- Cort
... and manage to confuse the living daylights out me.
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:08 pm
by strike700
QUOTE C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert 84.243.253.94
Tracing route to 84.243.253.94 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 12 ms 12 ms 11 ms cable3-1.sweetwaterhsa.com [65.113.234.1]2 15 ms 11 ms 18 ms 65.121.101.225
3 18 ms 20 ms 24 ms chy-edge-01.inet.qwest.net [65.121.98.49]
4 19 ms 19 ms 18 ms chy-core-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.158.37]
5 24 ms 31 ms 26 ms dvr-core-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.8.138]
6 48 ms 44 ms 66 ms svl-core-02.inet.qwest.net [67.14.12.10]
7 47 ms 51 ms 44 ms pax-brdr-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.205.30]
8 49 ms 49 ms 53 ms if-1-1.core3.PDI-PaloAlto.Teleglobe.net [207.45.
213.133]
9 48 ms 51 ms 68 ms if-1-1.mcore4.PDI-PaloAlto.Teleglobe.net [207.45
.196.78]
10 105 ms 95 ms 99 ms if-4-0.mcore4.NQT-NewYork.teleglobe.net [216.6.8
6.14]
11 173 ms 170 ms 174 ms if-3-0.core2.PG1-Paris.teleglobe.net [216.6.87.2
6]
12 183 ms 181 ms 176 ms 195.219.228.25
13 176 ms 181 ms 177 ms 195.219.228.2
14 186 ms 180 ms 182 ms if-6-0.core2.AD1-Amsterdam.teleglobe.net [80.231
.81.9]
15 191 ms 179 ms 179 ms Vlan3.msfc1.AD1-Amsterdam.teleglobe.net [80.231.
82.171]
16 177 ms 183 ms 190 ms Vlan856.msfc1.AD1-Amsterdam.teleglobe.net [80.23
1.82.62]
17 181 ms 184 ms 187 ms rtr-1.rtd-kub.grafix.nl [217.67.247.5]
18 186 ms 184 ms 187 ms 84.243.253.94
Trace complete.
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>[/quote]
I get a higher lag but otherwise see no difference when playing on the EU servers. Not even during the Multisquad game of 50+ people.
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:31 pm
by mcwarren4
PS - how do you copy/paste the data from the command prompt so I don't have to take a screenshot? And what do all of those numbers mean anyway?
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:35 pm
by strike700
Right-Click->Selectall->"Ctrl-C" then paste it into the the post window. *Note* you can't use "right click->Copy" because it deselects the text.
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:46 pm
by Anguirel
My guess is that packets are bunching up and being set in larger bursts. Cross-ocean pipes are like that. It will lead to reasonable average pings but unpredictable effects in game, especially when packets arrive out of order (and as you get further from a given server, that becomes more likely - for more, see ImmZ and the amazing retarded global routers).
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:06 am
by Clay_Pigeon
Because I want to belong
Code: Select all
Silence:~ troy$ traceroute -I -m 255 84.243.253.94
traceroute to 84.243.253.94 (84.243.253.94), 255 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1) 0.957 ms 0.701 ms 0.268 ms
2 10.71.96.1 (10.71.96.1) 8.211 ms 7.772 ms 12.157 ms
3 gig2-2.akrnoh2-ybr2.neo.rr.com (24.164.103.54) 8.077 ms 8.352 ms 11.926 ms
4 srp12-1.ncntoh1-rtr2.neo.rr.com (24.164.101.37) 148.310 ms 203.196 ms 199.463 ms
5 son2-1-1.mtgmoh1-rtr0.columbus.rr.com (65.25.128.249) 20.017 ms 22.687 ms 21.375 ms
6 te-3-1.car1.cincinnati1.level3.net (4.78.216.9) 23.257 ms 24.595 ms te-3-2.car1.cincinnati1.level3.net (4.78.216.13) 21.453 ms
7 * ae-5-5.ebr2.chicago1.level3.net (4.69.132.206) 31.462 ms *
8 * * ae-1-100.ebr1.chicago1.level3.net (4.69.132.41) 35.170 ms
9 * ae-2.ebr2.newyork1.level3.net (4.69.132.66) 56.507 ms 52.359 ms
10 ae-22-54.car2.newyork1.level3.net (4.68.97.117) 57.187 ms 64.211 ms 52.448 ms
11 interoute-c.car2.newyork1.level3.net (4.78.166.254) 50.893 ms 57.258 ms 69.446 ms
12 po5-0.nyc-002-inter-1.interoute.net (212.23.43.129) 139.310 ms 128.629 ms 128.410 ms
13 po3-0.lon-wal-core-2.interoute.net (212.23.43.150) 125.795 ms 145.044 ms 124.524 ms
14 po5-0.lon-wal-core-1.interoute.net (84.233.152.161) 118.392 ms 118.474 ms 119.712 ms
15 po1-2.rtm-vla-access-1.interoute.net (212.23.41.205) 122.767 ms 122.682 ms 124.081 ms
16 217.118.121.134 (217.118.121.134) 123.994 ms 123.202 ms 122.935 ms
17 84.243.253.94 (84.243.253.94) 135.989 ms 126.767 ms 126.722 ms
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:52 am
by ImmortalZ
My experience is on-average much smoother on the EU server than when playing on the US servers. But when it decides to screw up, I can't play at all.
@madpeople.
The file will have the ping output. There won't be anything on the console as the output is piped to the file.