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Allowing Iran to arm themselves with nuclear missiles is a very bad idea in my opinion.
Perhaps right now their leader is level headed but who knows what the next leader(s) in Iran would do if he had nuclear weapons at their disposal?
We always must be forward thinking and concerned about not just now but the future as well.

PS: Metz's post made me smile.
Thanks Metz

Papsmear wrote:QUOTE (Papsmear @ May 3 2019, 09:28 AM) Allowing Iran to arm themselves with nuclear missiles is a very bad idea in my opinion.

Hey congratulations you are now in agreement with the signatories of the JCPOA.

That thing you said? Literally why it was written and signed in the first place.

When you have to become a sarcastic snark to paps it means you lost the debate

I found the Syrian conflict fascinating. Assad had to hold onto power. Turkey and Saudi Arabia qatar wanted Assad removed. Iran and Russia backed Assad. America wanted isis destroyed. Now isis is formidable fighters. Isis had no chance. Even with the money flowing in from Saudi Arabia, Qatar and troops from Turkey they had to fight a 3 front war with Syria/Russia the battle hardened Kurds and america. They got annihilated probably to the last man. So Assad remains in power, Turkey still hates the Kurds and Russia, although they yielded to Russia. America rid themselves of Isis, Iran I guess is happy, saudi Arabia wasted all that money, and p1 wants iran to have nukes.

p1 do you really think the JCPOA would have prevented Iran from getting nukes?

I'll answer that. Yes. Or, if not, it was our best chance at a non-nuclear Iran.

This all is a reprise of the Agreed Framework with North Korea. Signed in 1994 by Clinton, tanked by Bush 43 in 2002, and by 2006 North Korea had their first successful nuclear bomb. Now there's no putting that genie back in the bottle.

Terran wrote:QUOTE (Terran @ May 3 2019, 09:01 PM) p1 do you really think the JCPOA would have prevented Iran from getting nukes?

terran do you really think there is one single action that exists, a magic wand someone can wave, that prevents Iran from getting nukes?

cashto wrote:QUOTE (cashto @ May 3 2019, 09:11 PM) I'll answer that. Yes. Or, if not, it was our best chance at a non-nuclear Iran.

Or, third option, it was a good first step on what was always going to be a long-ass journey convincing a nation that has been consistently $#@!ed over by western powers and also neighbors nations that have been consistently $#@!ed over by western powers that it doesn't need nuclear weapons to avoid being $#@!ed over by western powers.