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So you leave your @#(!ty little country pre 1995 and make it to the US.
You never plan to return to your @#(!ty little country and set up house and home in America.
You've had 25 + years to apply and become an American citizen but can't be bothered.
You get caught for a crime(s) and are legally ordered to leave the country.
Since you either are undocumented or a landed immagrant, you do not have the same protection you would have if you would have become a legal American.
Bon Voyage!

On a side note this happened to a coworker of mine in Canada.
His parents emmigrated from England to Canada when he was a child.
Mom, dad and kids got their landed immigrant papers but never bothered to become Canadian citizens.
The guy had 1 too many petty crimes and ultimately a judge ordered him deported.
Sucks to be him but hey, @#(! happens.

Moral of the storey....if you move to another country, become a full fledged citizen of the country you plan to live your life in.
Then you get the full protection of the laws of the country you are a citizen of.
Seems like a no brainer to me and as a matter of fact that's exactly what I did once I became an adult.

Again, deport them where, cause they aren't Vietnamese... They have a legal status in the US though, but I don't see why the Vietnam ppl have to take American criminals, maybe they should build a wall.

It's not just 'violent criminals' getting deported, though. The Supreme Court ruled this year that the government has unconstitutionally vague definition of 'violent' and that in practice, it refer to *any* crime. There have been attempts to deport people for no crime at all, merely suspicion of gang affiliation.

Papsmear wrote:QUOTE (Papsmear @ Dec 13 2018, 12:53 PM) Moral of the storey....if you move to another country, become a full fledged citizen of the country you plan to live your life in.
Then you get the full protection of the laws of the country you are a citizen of.
Seems like a no brainer to me and as a matter of fact that's exactly what I did once I became an adult.

Whether or not they should be deported if they are any other type of immigrant is irrelevant here. Deporting the pre-1995 Vietnam refugees is explicitly counter to the intent of the agreement between Vietnam and the US regarding these immigrants.

Papsmear wrote:QUOTE (Papsmear @ Dec 13 2018, 09:53 AM) So you leave your @#(!ty little country pre 1995 because some @#$%@# showed up and bombed it and murdered everyone for twenty years in an attempt to protect a regime so objectively awful that buddhist monks were lighting themselves on fire and make it to the US.
You never plan to return to your @#(!ty little country because it is now a wasteland of death and famine as the @#$%@# who showed up and bombed/murdered everyone eventually decided to try and kill off all of the rainforests so they could more effectively murder your neighbors and set up house and home in America.

You've had 25 + years to apply and become an American citizen but can't be bothered. get past the educational requirements because who the $#@! has time for learning English when your first twenty years of life are spent desperately dodging bombs, agent orange, and trigger-happy soldiers and the second half of your life is desperately trying to survive in a country where no one looks like you or talks like you or eats like you.
You get caught for a crime(s) and are legally ordered to leave the country.
Since you either are undocumented or a landed immagrant Except they are documented refugees, you do not have the same protection you would have if you would have become a legal American. In fact, it turns out that they have the legal protections of a treaty!
Bon Voyage!

QUOTE Moral of the storey....if you move to another country, become a full fledged citizen of the country you plan to live your life in.
Then you get the full protection of the laws of the country you are a citizen of.
Seems like a no brainer to me and as a matter of fact that's exactly what I did once I became an adult.[/quote]
You're a $#@!ing idiot if your reaction to Vietnamese refugees fleeing their country and coming to the US is anything that is even remotely similar to the story of your buddy who shoplifted too many times and was sent back to England. Holy hell.

Also, all of that is before we talk about how sketch the US government is about handing out promised citizenship to people of color. Filipinos who fought for the US in WW2 were promised citizenship. The Philippines was removed from Japanese control in 1944. Japan surrendered in 45. The Philippines were given total independence in 1946.

The last surviving soldiers were given their promised citizenship in 1995.

But yeah it's probably because they were lazy, right paps? RIGHT?!

phoenix1 wrote:QUOTE (phoenix1 @ Dec 13 2018, 02:31 PM) Also, all of that is before we talk about how sketch the US government is about handing out promised citizenship to people of color. Filipinos who fought for the US in WW2 were promised citizenship. The Philippines was removed from Japanese control in 1944. Japan surrendered in 45. The Philippines were given total independence in 1946.

The last surviving soldiers were given their promised citizenship in 1995.

But yeah it's probably because they were lazy, right paps? RIGHT?!

Also Paps, this isn't something that's no longer happening. The US recruits interpreters in Afghanistan and Iraq with the promise of bringing them and their families to the US after some given period of work. Many of them were later denied the opportunity to immigrate, and a fair number of those who could not move to the US were later murdered by various Islamic terror groups who were pissed at them helping the US. This is still happening today.

Write your congressman/woman if the actions of the US government & court bother you that much.
Posting your thoughts here isn't really helping the people who are scheduled for deportation

How about we just vote the $#@!ers out?

Papsmear wrote:QUOTE (Papsmear @ Dec 13 2018, 02:12 PM) Write your congressman/woman if the actions of the US government & court bother you that much.
Posting your thoughts here isn't really helping the people who are scheduled for deportation

Why do you post here?

I mean seriously. Do you think I'm posting here because I think it helps people? I post here because there are a few smart people on this board whose opinions I like to hear. That doesn't mean I'm going to roll over just because you happened to write some rhetoric consistently used by the right wing of my country to abuse minorities. You said something, I responded with three reasons that what happened aren't normal, then you went on this weird excursion about how "actually it's just fine that this happens because this one time a guy from England..."

I'll buy your "dude from england" story as being equivalent when the UK bombs the $#@! out of Canada for 20 years, kills a couple million of Canada's citizens, then agrees to accept refugees from Canada, then agrees to not send those refugees back to Canada, then sends them anyways because they were caught shoplifting one october.

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