Help convince my boss to give me time off

Allegiance discussion not belonging in another forum.
Sharpshooter
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Post by Sharpshooter »

Say I want to go play Allegiance in different ways.

1) I want to talk to the mentally ill.

2) I want to talk to children.


Or hmm.

1) Say your not a "morning" person, say that you typically work more better and efficiently throughout the afternoon.

Also don't forget to drug his coffee in the morning...it might help (or back fire)

I don't like the ideas of lying, so just say please; it's your best chance :)
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Post by lexaal »

I guess "telework" aka tele-"work" is not an option for you.
Instead of reducing your lunch break from 1hr to 45 minutes (which I wouldn't believe if i was your boss. I assume your are eating and having break with your co-workers...)you should propose him to work longer on one or 2 days.
As you said:
QUOTE blabla dealing with people ringing up and bitching about how they shouldn't have to trim their tree/hedge/shrub back.[/quote]
Tell your boss that you can not catch most of the people unitl 5pm because there are still working.
Tell him that you want to work longer on the evenings because it is difficult to call working people before 6pm.
Then propose him that you will start later with working so that you do not take too much overtime. (Without going into the detail that you want to shift 4.5 hours on monday instead of 1 hour per day). Get the Ok from your director. Go back to your direct boss and tell him "The Director also agreed that i should work until 7 on tuesday and until xyz on thursday. I'm not sure when i will eqalize my time at work but probably it will be on monday because the ammount of work is a little bit lower than on the most other day.
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Post by lexaal »

Or in less words:

Instead of telling your boss' boss: I want to work later on monday...
you should tell him: It would be a great advantage for you and the company if i would work a little bit longer in the evenings and then arrive later in the morning.
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Post by FreeBeer »

It's a gov't job, right?

Tell them that the little voices in your head tend to die down after 10am on Mondays. :D
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Post by Cheezits »

Tell him you have family living in the US and you need to skype with them on monday mornings to keep in touch.

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Post by Squirg »

Start crying if they say no.
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Post by Skutch »

Hi, the different time zones of this globe can be a real pain.

notjarvis brought up the most important item, your Line manager is fine with this, i.e. the decision is allredy taken and the director just need to sign off and not do any thinking himself, hopefully.

BUT, why does you manager need the director to sign this of, there could be a mine (prox1) burid here?
Here lies the solution to your problem most likely. If you can probe you line manager more about this you will be able to prepare better for victory. It could be many reasons, some better and some worse.
Some examples:
a) this has been brought up before by the line manager (without asking the director) and the director dissaproved of it then, manager want's to check if status has changed but is to much a coward to go and hask him/her self
b) line manager does not have authority to re-schedule work hours, this is simply protocol
c) line manager is a coward and don't want to take "big" decisions him/her self, director probably knows this, this could go either way
d) this is actually against policy, even though your manager don't dissapprove or understand why, you'll need to change policy at your work place

Lying is usually a bad idea. Not telling the whole truth is no the same thing and can be used to your advantage.

If you can find an activity that is held monday mornings and which indirectly benefits either your health or your ability to perform your work, your director will most likely be more inclined to approve the change of the schedule if he can (see policy issue above). Fist you play Allegiance, then you go to your activity (most mondays anyway) and then you go to work.
Going to the gym to keep fit is usually a good thing, the trick would be to find a reason to why you can't do it in the afternoon or early morning like most people. Perhaps a class in management training, gardening :) are better alternatices, IF any are held monday mornings.
Taking language lessons with a private tutor could work if you for instance have a recognised minority in your community, but could be expensive and is extra work.

I hope it is just a protocol thing, then stating that you just want to train physics together with your weekend rugby team buddies (or similar) on Monday mornings (even though you then afterwards suddenly quit this imaginary activity) would be reason enough.

Good luck!
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Post by madpeople »

Skutch wrote:QUOTE (Skutch @ Dec 3 2009, 08:44 AM) Going to the gym to keep fit is usually a good thing, the trick would be to find a reason to why you can't do it in the afternoon or early morning like most people. Perhaps a class in management training, gardening :) are better alternatices, IF any are held monday mornings.
Taking language lessons with a private tutor could work if you for instance have a recognised minority in your community, but could be expensive and is extra work.

I hope it is just a protocol thing, then stating that you just want to train physics together with your weekend rugby team buddies (or similar) on Monday mornings (even though you then afterwards suddenly quit this imaginary activity) would be reason enough.

Good luck!
I'm not sure about coming up with some activity and then droping it is a good idea, they may ask you how it's going and you would say you dropped out (which looks bad - no commitment), and then they may ask why you haven't switched back to your old schedule or something.
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Post by Shizoku »

In these cases I always try and be as blunt as possible. Tell him exactly why you want a bit of time off and why you occasionally may be late with no embellishments whatsoever. If he values you as an employee he will agree to your terms and probably respect you more for not bull@#(!ting him.

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Post by beeman »

Whatever you do, make it simple and DO NOT grovel. I have 2 guys that work for me, and when they start on these long, complicated stories and excuses I can smell the B.S. comming and usually tell them, "just take the day off". Also, do NOT do it in a letter - it's much harder to say "No" straight to someone's face. I'd make it something like:

Me: Hey Bill, Got a sec? I'm thinking of changing my schedule to <Blank>

Bill: Why?

Me: I got this hobby and the meetings start at <Blank>

Bill: What kind of hobby? Knitting?

Me: *chuckles* No, I know it sounds geeky, but it's a computer club, we get together once a week...mainly to surf porn!

Bill: *busts a gut laughing* Fishy, that's hilarious! You take all the time you need. In fact, I'm giving you a raise and a company car!

Me: Thanks Bill! We still on for tonight?

Bill: Sure, I wouldn't miss our hot, man-on-man gay sex marathons for the world!!

Me: O.k., I'll bring the orange marmalade.

Bill: *mumbles to self* ...surfing porn...he kills me!

Simple and effective.
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