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HSharp wrote:QUOTE (HSharp @ Oct 27 2009, 09:26 PM) in other words, they are light cruisers (as cruisers also can rip but cannot load heavy cloak)

True, but battlecruisers can load heavy cloak now.

A change I very much agree with btw.

Xeretov wrote:QUOTE (Xeretov @ Oct 28 2009, 04:23 AM) True, but battlecruisers can load heavy cloak now.

The new battlecruiser will be interesting. Maybe it should be renamed stealth cruiser or tactical cruiser or something. Stealth is not the first thing that comes to mind with a name like that.

But at least it has a reason to exist now.

Adept wrote:QUOTE (Adept @ Oct 28 2009, 01:54 PM) The new battlecruiser will be interesting. Maybe it should be renamed stealth cruiser or tactical cruiser or something. Stealth is not the first thing that comes to mind with a name like that.

But at least it has a reason to exist now.

Good idea and we will rename MF's to Stealth Frigate or maybe Tactical Frigate or maybe stfu up Adept Frigates

Love the changes. GJ.

Hate the changes. You suck spidey.

You too Xeretov!

Weylin wrote:QUOTE (Weylin @ Oct 29 2009, 12:52 AM) So this is intended to balance caps for 15v15 games?
How will it effect small games of 5v5 or so do you think?

If you're using caps in a 5v5 game with CC06 you are already tied into that techpath. These changes will make matters worse for that (although personally I think caps in small games tend to be stupid and boring)

It has been said many times before that CC is aimed at balancing 15 v 15 games, so It's not 'being rebalanced' for 15v15 as it's always been balanced for about that size.

Capships were a retarded game choice in a small game before CC07 - and CC07 will not change that fact.

So asking how it affects small games was a bit of a pointless question, as small games don't (and shouldn't) concern the CC team.

Edited down to one post for clarity. -Xer

Edit Further editted to make it seem like im not repetitive -nj.

mcwarren4 wrote:QUOTE (mcwarren4 @ Oct 27 2009, 09:43 PM) Can giga lt cruisers rip? I can't remember. If yes, coupled with the cheaper cost and tele spam that will be difficult to stop. If no, carry on... carry on...

Giga original had no drydock, which had the following pros and cons:

Pros:
could get LtCruisers (MF with could ripcord) without upgrading to Drydock and Missile Frigatecould get Devastator with upgrading to Drydockcould get Assault Ship without upgrading to Drydock

Cons:
No access to research: PW SkyCap 3LargeShield 3SRM Nuke 2XRM Cruise 2XRM Hunter Killer 3LRM Killer Swarm 2Ship speed 2No Missile Frigate (see pros)

spideycw wrote:QUOTE (spideycw @ Oct 28 2009, 08:49 PM) Good idea and we will rename MF's to Stealth Frigate or maybe Tactical Frigate or maybe stfu up Adept Frigates

What do people think of the med shielded lux SFs? In the few encounters I've had so far they've been maddeningly hard to kill one on one. Probably need to start carryign one dis or EMP vs. giga tac.

Adept wrote:QUOTE (Adept @ Oct 29 2009, 02:05 PM)

What do people think of the med shielded lux SFs? In the few encounters I've had so far they've been maddeningly hard to kill one on one. Probably need to start carryign one dis or EMP vs. giga tac.

They are quite difficult to kill 1 v 1 - but they also cost 500 bucks a pop.

I recommend carrying one dis when sup or landing your missiles.

Also when exp it is not really necessary to carry emp (unless they have higher levels of medium shield) just get inc lose and out turn the sf