mcwarren4 wrote:QUOTE (mcwarren4 @ Feb 12 2009, 06:47 PM) This is what I hate about most people's view on how to balance a core. Evincar listed out changes for all of those factions and every single change was to make the factions stronger rather than making the three 'chosen' ones weaker. If we keep going down this road we might as well go ahead and reintroduce Bacon's BFG and call it a day.
yes, i have to agree with crono here that the balance benchmark is IC followed by belters. on an unrelated note, the fact that rix somehow fits in the equation is a matter of luck.
All the factions should be centered around buffs/nerfs/differences wrt ic/belts. if you want to nerf ic/belts/rix, first your work is more complicated because at the moment they are the only balanced factions (THE UNBALANCED ONES ARE NOT BALANCED BETWEEN THEM), and second because they are on the middleground. the rest of factions either use perks or nerfs respect ic/belts (ic has above average ammo and above average pwew dmg, but the rest they are pretty much on the 1.0.
edit: and i value your opinion here, just don't discredit my ideas because you think they are not the correct way to implement a change. if you also understand there is a massive utility gap between the factions, please state your ideas about balancing them, i will not make fun of you. in fact my exaggerated ideas had this in mind, that other people started talking about what they thought balance meant in general terms.
so, if you feel the game is not balanced, for squad games or for pick up (or both), this is the subforum and more specifically this is the thread to discuss it and how to alleviate those differences.
there is another issue, change is supposedly intended to be progressive as i understand from what the cc reps have said. if we decided to nerf rix/belts/ic instead of buffing the rest, we would eventually end having to do a massive faction attribute change, and above all, the factions are intrinsically powerful because their openings and bombing capabilities (rix & ic, belts & ic) are powerful and fast. this is the best way to play squad games as you know, there is no room for an expansive, careless economy as giga was intended to be (but now as it has been nerfed so much it is not), there is no room for a slow juggernaut like tf is supposed to be. all of them get decimated by a quick opening that sets the mood of the game.
my first idea is give them a slight artificial boost over the opening minutes, maybe by giving the lt ships more hull/ammo/better hitboxes (in the case of dreg, and tf in some other way, this is already a problem that can't be corrected unless the model is removed), extra con speed (tf would be taken more seriously if their constructors capped at 80 or even an above average speed like 90 or 100, in fact it could be an interesting perk), free opening ships (seriously, giga scouts won't plant a single constructor on the opening vs any of the top tier squads vs any decent faction).
for brood: i understand very well the idea of a comeback faction. comebacks are surreal in SGs. unless you want to do something really drastic like double tf's yield (i would still pick belts over a 2.0 tf yield).
